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A serious thread about online poker
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SHHMCJOOAPOYS
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I run bad at 45 mans 
SHHMCJOOAPOYS
Bluelighter
sick. nice run you're on. keep it up.
SHHMCJOOAPOYS
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ship ship ship
Bedhead
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How much volume do you guys put in daily? I know SnG swings can be sick, so I'm wondering what the daily volume should be to 'counteract' that I guess. Mathematically, the more volume the better, but I'm wondering realistically what you guys do.
I'm back at school now, so poker is taking a backseat to classes + partying, at least for now. Playing with any kind of alcohol in my system just burns my bankroll.
I'm back at school now, so poker is taking a backseat to classes + partying, at least for now. Playing with any kind of alcohol in my system just burns my bankroll.
Fjones
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rough table. Gboro might be the best there is. He is ranked 99.99 three years in a row on BOTH major sites !????? he is top 40 all 6 times !????
C. Harder is one of the top players. STammdog up a half million. I could not find norfman on OPR. Can he beat this all star cast??
I managed to win $650 tonight playing 45 mans. I bullied a guy with my 9000 stack to his 58,000
C. Harder is one of the top players. STammdog up a half million. I could not find norfman on OPR. Can he beat this all star cast??
I managed to win $650 tonight playing 45 mans. I bullied a guy with my 9000 stack to his 58,000
Bedhead
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O RLY?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 3.4 Tournament, 200/400 Blinds 25 Ante (2 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
SB (t4450)
Hero (BB) (t9050)
Hero's M: 13.92
Preflop: Hero is BB with J
, J
SB bets t4425 (All-In), Hero calls t4025
Flop: (t8900) 4
, A
, 2
(2 players, 1 all-in)
Turn: (t8900) 9
(2 players, 1 all-in)
River: (t8900) Q
(2 players, 1 all-in)
Total pot: t8900
Results:
SB had 5
, 3
(straight, five high).
Hero had J
, J
(one pair, Jacks).
Outcome: SB won t8900
Taking some beats, but I feel like I'm playing better. Finding good spots, shoving at the right time, etc.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 3.4 Tournament, 200/400 Blinds 25 Ante (2 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
SB (t4450)
Hero (BB) (t9050)
Hero's M: 13.92
Preflop: Hero is BB with J
SB bets t4425 (All-In), Hero calls t4025
Flop: (t8900) 4
Turn: (t8900) 9
River: (t8900) Q
Total pot: t8900
Results:
SB had 5
Hero had J
Outcome: SB won t8900
Taking some beats, but I feel like I'm playing better. Finding good spots, shoving at the right time, etc.
Fjones
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I don't think the 3 5 shove is a terrible play. He was down to 10 Big blinds, and does not nave much time to wait for a hand. Many peopel will fold heads up to a few early all ins, not wanting to double the guy up, and not yet realizing the guy is shoving any 2.
My session yesterday matched my worst day ever at 45 man tournaments. I cannot get any momentum going.
Nguboi, sounds like your friend is on fire. The top players seem to win tournaments consistently.
My session yesterday matched my worst day ever at 45 man tournaments. I cannot get any momentum going.
Nguboi, sounds like your friend is on fire. The top players seem to win tournaments consistently.
Bedhead
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The cashes and 1st place prize money you speak of has me drooling. I'm sure they're on cloud 9. I hope you guys are having fun. Just don't blow through all that cash. I don't even know what I'd do with all that money.
Fjones
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Somehow the best players just know what to do and when. I wish I knew what it is, but I doubt it is something you can quantify. It's about paying attention to tendencies, having the confidence to take risks and push small edges, and having a firm understanding of people's pushing and calling ranges.
No Limit is an extraordinarily complex game in some ways, and yet in its simplicity it fools people into thinking that anyone can do it. But that kind of thinking is absurd. Only the gifted can excel enough to be among the truly elite, just like with anything else - Chess, football, singing, writing.
I have lost my confidence and I barely even play any more. This, despite career earnings of around $45,000 playing online poker tournaments. But I don't want to be a grinder. It's not fun. And yet I suspect I have reached the limit of what I can accomplish in this game. The losing streaks are so discouraging, especially in the absence of the big score that many successful players have.
I now have anxiety and uneasiness about even starting a session, and when I do, and things go wrong, I start thinking, "here we go again.'
That is not a recipe for success. But I just hate losing, and I hate even more than I can so regularly lose to such inferior players.
I do not deal well with the fact that a player can limp call a raise out of position with Ace 4, call my pot sized bet on a flop f 2 5 T, then call my all in on the turn, and hit a three and win the pot. Four bad mistakes and he wins the pot? What the hell? It would be akin to a chess opponent moving his queen in front of my pawn, yet when I go to take it, the pawn explodes and sends a piece of shrapnel into my king and my army is defeated and I lose.
No Limit is an extraordinarily complex game in some ways, and yet in its simplicity it fools people into thinking that anyone can do it. But that kind of thinking is absurd. Only the gifted can excel enough to be among the truly elite, just like with anything else - Chess, football, singing, writing.
I have lost my confidence and I barely even play any more. This, despite career earnings of around $45,000 playing online poker tournaments. But I don't want to be a grinder. It's not fun. And yet I suspect I have reached the limit of what I can accomplish in this game. The losing streaks are so discouraging, especially in the absence of the big score that many successful players have.
I now have anxiety and uneasiness about even starting a session, and when I do, and things go wrong, I start thinking, "here we go again.'
That is not a recipe for success. But I just hate losing, and I hate even more than I can so regularly lose to such inferior players.
I do not deal well with the fact that a player can limp call a raise out of position with Ace 4, call my pot sized bet on a flop f 2 5 T, then call my all in on the turn, and hit a three and win the pot. Four bad mistakes and he wins the pot? What the hell? It would be akin to a chess opponent moving his queen in front of my pawn, yet when I go to take it, the pawn explodes and sends a piece of shrapnel into my king and my army is defeated and I lose.
Fjones
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You make a good point. I don't want to make excuses, or say that I have gotten unlucky, because that sounds like loser talk, and I have talked to so many players who were convinced that is why they weren't winning, when in fact, I could easily spot soem serious flaws in their game.
But, I will say this - There have been quite a few times in Multi-table tournaments where a bounce here, a break there, and I could have had a big score.
I won a tournament way back on party poker with 1300 people, $15 buy in. The prize was $4100.
Since moving to Full Tilt 3 years ago, I have not gotten 1st place in a large Multi (181 or more players).
I have, however, had 30 or so "close calls," meaning I made the top 1 or 2% of the field, but didn't get the big prize.
After a while, that becomes frustrating, especially since I feel like one or two big breaks there would have possibly catapulted my career to where I wanted it to be.
Out of 1600 people, finishing 15th place gets you $130, whereas 1st place is over $8000. Getting too many of those 15th places is enough to discourage all but the most determined. Maybe I just don't have what it takes to keep moving forward.
But, I will say this - There have been quite a few times in Multi-table tournaments where a bounce here, a break there, and I could have had a big score.
I won a tournament way back on party poker with 1300 people, $15 buy in. The prize was $4100.
Since moving to Full Tilt 3 years ago, I have not gotten 1st place in a large Multi (181 or more players).
I have, however, had 30 or so "close calls," meaning I made the top 1 or 2% of the field, but didn't get the big prize.
After a while, that becomes frustrating, especially since I feel like one or two big breaks there would have possibly catapulted my career to where I wanted it to be.
Out of 1600 people, finishing 15th place gets you $130, whereas 1st place is over $8000. Getting too many of those 15th places is enough to discourage all but the most determined. Maybe I just don't have what it takes to keep moving forward.
Bedhead
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Cmon guy? no one running goot?
Still running like 33 BI under EV. lol.
Classes are pretty hectic so I don't have much time to play anymore. Good time to take a break. I want to re-read Moshman's SnG book before I start grinding again.
Infinite Jest
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Sigh. Been bubbling constantly on Stars (mainly playing low-stakes tourneys or 180s). Constantly losing coinflips or getting sucked out on (e.g. get short-staked, shove with QJs or something, get called by J8 (!?!) and lose).
I finally get a perfect run of hands where the opposite happens, I win every coinflip, I get great cards, I suck out (A5s hits a flush to beat AA etc). I win the whole thing!
First out of 360.
But I'm playing a $0.10 buy-in tourney.
Maybe that's my level
I finally get a perfect run of hands where the opposite happens, I win every coinflip, I get great cards, I suck out (A5s hits a flush to beat AA etc). I win the whole thing!
First out of 360.But I'm playing a $0.10 buy-in tourney.
Maybe that's my level