A serious thread about online poker

[Fjones]

I didn't realize how tight some of my tournaments are until i reviewed some hand by hand in HoldEmManager. I play 8 to 12 games at a time, so I don't pay attention to how many hands I am playing or not playing in a particular tournament. If something BEEPS. I click. big hands comes up and I lose, I close the game window and start another.

When reviewing the games later though hand by hand, I was amazed when I noticed how many tournaments I would only play one or two hands from and then bust (with Ak or QQ or something).

If someone were just playing that game only, he would probably have been involved in other hands, just because of the sheer boredom.

A lot of people say to me, "I can't play 4 or 6 or 10 tables like you do, I wouldn't be able to keep up. But the thing is, they probably could, if they played fewer hands.

 

[johanneschimpo]

^ I need to have other shit going on when I play or I run the risk of playing like shit. I usually watch TV/browse the net/other as I play (1-2 tables at a time) so I have something to occupy my mind and keep me from trying to get fancy and donking off chips on stupid hands.

 

[Bedhead]

I guess I was thinking he sucked enough to 3 bet raise me with a strong K, but no FH.

This is what I would have thought.

In that situation, I think I cry and click call. Standard cooler.

Did you pay the 215 entry fee or sat in btw ?

 

[ostrich]

You could have just called the initial bet, rather than raising on the river?
Kx would call your raise, but you've committed your tournament life with the raise as you saw. That said, my main problem is that I'm not aggressive enough, I guess with an aggressive style, that was pretty much unavoidable.

 

[Bedhead]

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $3.00+$0.40 Tournament, 15/30 Blinds (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG (t1260)
UTG+1 (t540)
MP1 (t1565)
MP2 (t2640)
MP3 (t1185)
CO (t1410)
Hero (Button) (t1425)
SB (t1545)
BB (t1930)

Hero's M: 31.67

Preflop: Hero is Button with K

, K

UTG calls t30, UTG+1 bets t540 (All-In), MP1 raises to t1565 (All-In), 2 folds, CO calls t1410 (All-In), Hero calls t1425 (All-In), 3 folds

Insta-snap-call? Do I cry and call? Is it even mathematically correct to call here? Or do I gain much more equity by watching these 3 clowns all in? Players stack off w/ anything here.. so it's not like I'm only up against AA AK here. A lot of mid pocket pairs QK, AQ, and AK here.

 

[Bedhead]

^Definitely sick. The allure of MTTs is those big cashes, but the variance is sick. I think I would go on severe monkey tilt.

In that KK 4 way pot the other callers were 99 (original shover), then AQ, TT to my right... but a ace fell on the flop. Motherfucker. I also figured that if one or two guys had AK then they'd be drawing to 2/3 outs to hit an ace and I'd be in good shape.

Is there a progression from SnG to MTTs, like playing 45 mans, 90 mans, 180 mans, then large fields or is it best to just jump right into MTTs?

Also, do you stake your friends nguboi?

 

[SHHMCJOOAPOYS]

I would have raised the turn. And when he bets the river just press call. Remember that in a limped pot he could have anything....

 

[Fjones]

Yeah, its just hard to just call with a full house, because Im expecting to get huge value. But, like I said, I should of just MIN raised the river, and folded to any re raise, but shit, its pretty hard to fold in the early stages of a super flounder infested tournament when only 3~ hands beat you. Ill accept the fact if I was a somewhat decent player, I could of folded.

What would Fjones of done? folded on the turn?

I go broke. If he has me beat, oh well. Most of the hands that beat us there would have raised pre flop.

 

[SHHMCJOOAPOYS]

6 left!

I am railing... what's your sn?? GL GL GL

 

[Fjones]

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $3.00+$0.40 Tournament, 15/30 Blinds (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG (t1260)
UTG+1 (t540)
MP1 (t1565)
MP2 (t2640)
MP3 (t1185)
CO (t1410)
Hero (Button) (t1425)
SB (t1545)
BB (t1930)

Hero's M: 31.67

Preflop: Hero is Button with K

, K

UTG calls t30, UTG+1 bets t540 (All-In), MP1 raises to t1565 (All-In), 2 folds, CO calls t1410 (All-In), Hero calls t1425 (All-In), 3 folds

Insta-snap-call? Do I cry and call? Is it even mathematically correct to call here? Or do I gain much more equity by watching these 3 clowns all in? Players stack off w/ anything here.. so it's not like I'm only up against AA AK here. A lot of mid pocket pairs QK, AQ, and AK here.

Come on man. You have KK in a $3 tournament.

 

[SHHMCJOOAPOYS]

OMG sick turn card! he makes a flush

 

[Fjones]

** true that Fjones, I wasn't really upset with it until I asked people to analyze the hand, but of course, in the given situation, It is true, about K6/K5 is what he probably had. Oh well, F that shiat, watching my friend play, it makes me relize i do not have what it takes to be a poker legend.

I dont fold full houses. Ever. Not online. People show up with way too many bizarre hands.

 

[SHHMCJOOAPOYS]

Come on man. You have KK in a $3 tournament.

Yeah.. I have to agree with Fjones on this one... in all seriousness, it's just a $3 tournament.

 

[Fjones]

the stacks are so deep.

 

[SHHMCJOOAPOYS]

sick beat 66 < QQ

 

[Fjones]

OMG on that all diamond board where he re shoved, he had 22d!!!!!!!!!!!!! ballsy!!!!!!

That is borderline insane. was that a good shove? It seems suicidal. But it worked. What do I know. I am the master of 17th place in these things.

 

[Bedhead]

Standard push?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $3.00+$0.40 Tournament, 75/150 Blinds (5 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP (t1340)
Button (t2750)
SB (t1330)
Hero (BB) (t2575)
UTG (t5505)

Hero's M: 11.44

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8

, 8

3 folds, SB bets t300, Hero raises to t2575 (All-In), SB calls t1030 (All-In)

Flop: (t2660) 4

, J

, 7

(2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: (t2660) J

(2 players, 2 all-in)

River: (t2660) A

(2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: t2660

What about here? Flat? Not deep enough to set mine? We're OOP, overcards will most likely come on the flop... We have a decent stack, but I kind of feel like calling here is just leaking chips if I C/F to overs on the flop most of the time. Villain is tight btw.

Poker Stars $3.00+$0.40 USD No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t75/t150 Blinds - 5 players - View hand 217991
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

BTN: t2790 M = 12.40
SB: t1445 M = 6.42
Hero (BB): t3535 M = 15.71
UTG: t3015 M = 13.40
CO: t2715 M = 12.07

Pre Flop: (t225) Hero is BTN with 7 :club: 7 :diamond:
2 folds, BTN raises to t450, 1 fold, Hero ?


And...

What do you guys do when you're in a slump? Whether you're running bad or just playing bad, and you lack that confidence you once had with your game? Take time off? Review HH? Watch some videos? Is it possible to do a self-analysis and determine whether you're playing bad or just running bad?

 

[Fjones]

Standard push?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $3.00+$0.40 Tournament, 75/150 Blinds (5 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP (t1340)
Button (t2750)
SB (t1330)
Hero (BB) (t2575)
UTG (t5505)

Hero's M: 11.44

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8

, 8

3 folds, SB bets t300, Hero raises to t2575 (All-In), SB calls t1030 (All-In)

Flop: (t2660) 4

, J

, 7

(2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: (t2660) J

(2 players, 2 all-in)

River: (t2660) A

(2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: t2660

What about here? Flat? Not deep enough to set mine? We're OOP, overcards will most likely come on the flop... We have a decent stack, but I kind of feel like calling here is just leaking chips if I C/F to overs on the flop most of the time. Villain is tight btw.

Poker Stars $3.00+$0.40 USD No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t75/t150 Blinds - 5 players - View hand 217991
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

BTN: t2790 M = 12.40
SB: t1445 M = 6.42
Hero (BB): t3535 M = 15.71
UTG: t3015 M = 13.40
CO: t2715 M = 12.07

Pre Flop: (t225) Hero is BTN with 7 :club: 7 :diamond:
2 folds, BTN raises to t450, 1 fold, Hero ?


And...

What do you guys do when you're in a slump? Whether you're running bad or just playing bad, and you lack that confidence you once had with your game? Take time off? Review HH? Watch some videos? Is it possible to do a self-analysis and determine whether you're playing bad or just running bad?

88 standard shove.

the 77 I probably shove.

When poker is not going well I often take time off. That makes it worse.

 

[Bedhead]

....

 

[SHHMCJOOAPOYS]

wow impressive. he seems to be on a heater