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Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrghhhhhhhh!

DENIED AGAIN!

Throw me a fucking bone!!!!

So close to a big score and my first big tournament win on full tilt. I play mostly 45 mans so I don't have a chance to take a 5K first prize all that often.

I got all in with a better hand and the flop was clean with a flush draw for me (and him, but his was worse) but the turn brought the dagger.
 
I play STTs the same way you do. I try to cash then I go balls to the wall trying for 1st. I just found STTs too frustrating. The ROI is so low, and they don't go that much faster than 45 mans.

I am rally upset with full tilt right now. I cannot 9 table because of their new upgrade. When you move tables now, it opens a new one in a different spot on the screen, instead of on top of the old one. So, my 3 X 3 grid is ruined and I have to manage this 10th table, close the old one that I am no longer at, and then resize the 10th and slide it in the old slot. But now the software doesn't "know" I have a table there, since it wasn't placed automatically with the custom layout, so new games open underneath it.

I am on a 40 buy-in downswing at 45 mans right now. Yuck.
 
nguboi said:
Hey! looking good Fjones! keep it up bro!
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I am actually on one of the worst downswings of my career. But I am happy I can say that while still having a 5,400 month. Rakeback provides another 600.

Apparently freerolls count against rakeback. What a crock. So when I signed up for a world series freeroll and did not play, I lost $32 in rakeback. What a waste.
 
nguboi said:
Hey Jones, have you ever heard of FullTiltPlanner? http://overcards.com/wiki/moin.cgi/FullTiltPlanner

I think this will override their software and you will be able to place the tables where-ever you want.

Maybe I should play some more 45s. I am sure they are just like the 180 man sngs, just really looking for monster hands then its all about shoving/stealing. You play just non turbo 45 mans right? I might look into it, what do you think about the turbo ones? how long do the 45 man non turbos last ?
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I use FTS which I think is similar (Full tilt shortcuts). I might need to tweak the settings.

they do not have turbo 45 mans, though the levels are only 6 minutes, so in a way they are all turbos really. But they have the same blind structure and time as the non turbo STTs.

If I win a 45 man it usually takes an hour and 40 minutes. On average they take aroudn an hour. When I 8-table, I suaully average 5 per hour.

The $69s are filled with clowns.

today someone limp / snap called utg with 6 4 when I raised to 4X from the big blind. This was at the final table and he called for 20% of his stack.

In the first hand of a tournament, someone limped A5 utg, then snap called my raise to 4X, then min raised me on a flop of jack high (I had QQ), then he INSTANTLY called my all in. HE INSTACALLED MY ALL IN DRAWING TO THREE OUTS! In a $69 game!

I have seen people call someone's raise with JT then call my all in with it also. Peopel limp/call all ins like it's their job.

The number of times today that I shook my head in utter disbelief is too many to count.
 
I don't know how to explain it. The STTS are shark tanks where grinders basically break even and play for rakeback. But the 45 mans are filled with clowns.
 
Everyone should write to Representative Frank and support the cause. He is trying to undo the absurd last minute legislation enacted by the Bush Administration.

Frank Unveils Internet Gambling Legislation

Washington, DC - Today, Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank (D-MA) unveiled legislation that would enable Americans to bet online and put an end to an inappropriate interference with their personal freedom.

The Internet Gambling Regulation, Consumer Protection, & Enforcement Act of 2009 would establish a federal regulatory and enforcement framework under which Internet gambling operators could obtain licenses authorizing them to accept bets and wagers from individuals in the United States. The legislation comes in response to the enactment of Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act (UIGEA), which restricted the use of the payments system for Americans who gamble online.

In addition, Chairman Frank announced today he is introducing separate legislation to delay the implementation of regulations pursuant to the 2006-passed UIGEA, which are set to go into effect December 1, 2009. The regulations were completed by the Bush Administration at the last minute, and the legislation will stop Federal regulators from enforcing the UIGEA until Congress has had a chance to decide national policy.
 
What a fucking joke. I am absolutely incensed right now. Fuck all these asshoel politicisans who don't know a game of skill from a game of chance. I fuckgin hope they all die in a fiery crash. Seriosuly, LEAVWE MY BELOVED GAME ALONE! WHat the fuck is wrong with these ignorant assholes? How the fuck can anyone be usch an ignorant asshole? poloticians should do thweur fuckign job instead of engaging in ridiculous crusades against law abduiign citizebns. People want to know why I am so angry all the time? THISI IS FUCKING WH Because some high ansd mighty ignaorant asshole politicans who have their heads stuck way up their asses are trying to ruin the game I love that enables me to make a living.

FUCKING DIE IN A FIERY BLAZE ALREADY! The world doesn't need your self righteous sanctimonious bullshit!

Let's have one of these politicans play me in a series of poker games and we will see whether it is a game iof skill ro luck. IW iwll fucking crush them.

I am goign to vomit if I see another article state that "internet gamblign is illegal in 560 states.
" NO IT IS NOT. GET YOUR FUCKING FACTS STRAIGHT! YOU ARE A FUCKIGN NEWS MEDIA OUTLET, Get your goddamn information staright befiore yopuo publich misniformation and disinfmrmation.

If internet gamblign is illegel, NAME THE FUCKING LAW! Oh, that's rightm, you can't, BECAUSE THWERE ISN"T ONE! NEVER HAS BEEN AND NEVER WILL BE!

Hwo the fuckl do you pass an "unlawful internet gamnbling enforecement act" to enforce a NON EXISTENT FUCKING LAW???????????????????

I HATE POLOTICIANS AND THE GIVERMENT!@ THEY CAN ALL KISS MY ASS AND DIE!

(Note -- I will edit this tomorropw whan I sm soberer. Yeah, I know that probably isn't a word. SO what. Deal with it).
 
There is some neat stuff on the PPA website about a study that was done over 103 million hands. It showed how the winner of a hand is often not the person with the best cards, showing that it is clearly a game of skill.
 
The losing continues unabated. This is boggling my mind how unlucky I am getting.

Today when I tried to open the lobby for Mini FTops 10 it crashed the full tilt program and ruined several poker games in progress.
 
Getting "deep" in the miniFtops 10. I made a donk play and got lucky and then got some hands.
 
damn. Why do people keep catching up? Why can't uit just be "game over, you lose" and we get their chips????

That AQ into AA was THIS tournament ????????????????

I remember a hand where I was crippled with AQ into AA but I thought it was the deuce deuce.
 
beer and liquor. I feel like getting blasted tonight but I have nothing I feel like taking. Pokr has been dreadful lately. 47 buy in downswing at the 45 mans. How does a player with a 25% ROI and $25000 profit over 3000 games go on a 47 buy in downswing?
 
This is a nightmare run. I push AJ into JJ and AQ. I push AQ into AK. I push AK into AA. My C bets fail. People run straights and flushes on me in all ins. I push pockets into bigger ones. I push A8 into 99. I get no action on QQ KK AA. When I "C bet" and actually have the hand, peole fold. I flop hands in the BB and get fucked. I run AK into small pockets CONSTANTLY, and seriosuly whiffed about 18 AK in a row. THey never have Ax. But then I push QQ and KK and htey ALWAYS have Ax. Peopel 3-bet me constantly. I always get AA and KK Out of position, or in position but when someone else raised and no additional callers, so I ahev to 3 bet and give away my hand strength.

AAAAAAAAAAARGh!
 
I'm getting beat by idiots, like the guy calling down to the river with A3 from the big blind on board of 422-K (two spades), calling big bets on every street then rivering the 5 and checking.

Or the guy who raised 10xBB with J4 suited from mid position then bet 1/3 his stack on the flop with a flush draw and called an all-in reraise. (I wasn't in the hand, it was just so stupid I have to post about it).

And yeah, running into AA with AK or KK all the time. (btw, if you've raised 3xBB with AK and someone re-raises all in, would you call? Mid-tourney, I had plenty of chips).
 
Infinite Jest said:
I'm getting beat by idiots, like the guy calling down to the river with A3 from the big blind on board of 422-K (two spades), calling big bets on every street then rivering the 5 and checking.

Or the guy who raised 10xBB with J4 suited from mid position then bet 1/3 his stack on the flop with a flush draw and called an all-in reraise. (I wasn't in the hand, it was just so stupid I have to post about it).

And yeah, running into AA with AK or KK all the time. (btw, if you've raised 3xBB with AK and someone re-raises all in, would you call? Mid-tourney, I had plenty of chips).
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I don't fold AK pre flop unless it is an extreme situation (2 or more other players showing great strength, or soemthing crazy where both players are 100 big blinds deep and the odds are not great).

Generally, by the time you figure out you are in trouble, you have too many chips invested to fold.
 
nguboi said:
nah, I think it was the mini ftops, cause that was all you were enrolled in when I was watching. Its been a long damn day today. but I like it, just gotta keep jamming in the volume -_-
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You are right. I was nearly felted very early, but made it to the top 1% of the field. On the very next hand I tripled up with TT.

Full Tilt Poker Game #12147960972: MiniFTOPS Event #10 (84242213), Table 651 - 300/600 Ante 75 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:41:20 ET - 2009/05/10
Seat 1: MrTangDK (8,756)
Seat 2: Hero (12,280)
Seat 3: Dawgphatt (29,492)
Seat 4: AAflushAA (64,362)
Seat 5: DiegoCardoso (52,976)
Seat 6: traiter (4,474)
Seat 7: RockstarRossi (14,717)
Seat 8: diamondmists (30,931)
Seat 9: McNallyville (39,853)
MrTangDK antes 75
Hero antes 75
Dawgphatt antes 75
AAflushAA antes 75
DiegoCardoso antes 75
traiter antes 75
RockstarRossi antes 75
diamondmists antes 75
McNallyville antes 75
RockstarRossi posts the small blind of 300
diamondmists posts the big blind of 600
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Qc Ah]
McNallyville folds
MrTangDK raises to 1,200
Hero raises to 3,500
Dawgphatt folds
AAflushAA folds
DiegoCardoso folds
traiter folds
RockstarRossi folds
diamondmists folds
MrTangDK raises to 8,681, and is all in
Hero calls 5,181
MrTangDK shows [As Ac]
Hero shows [Qc Ah]
*** FLOP *** [2c 9s 6c]
*** TURN *** [2c 9s 6c] [Ts]
*** RIVER *** [2c 9s 6c Ts] [9h]
MrTangDK shows two pair, Aces and Nines
Hero shows a pair of Nines
MrTangDK wins the pot (18,937) with two pair, Aces and Nines
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 18,937 | Rake 0
Board: [2c 9s 6c Ts 9h]
Seat 1: MrTangDK showed [As Ac] and won (18,937) with two pair, Aces and Nines
Seat 2: Hero showed [Qc Ah] and lost with a pair of Nines
Seat 3: Dawgphatt folded before the Flop
Seat 4: AAflushAA folded before the Flop
Seat 5: DiegoCardoso folded before the Flop
Seat 6: traiter (button) folded before the Flop
Seat 7: RockstarRossi (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 8: diamondmists (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 9: McNallyville folded before the Flop
 
Oh man. If I knew 5 years ago what I know now......

It took me 6 months to becoem break even and another 6 months to turn profit, and then I took most of the next two years off for various reasons. So much lost time and money.

Maybe I overplayed my AQ there, but shit, you gotta do something sometime. That is the minimum hand I go with there and of course I run into top range. AA should not show up there that often! Ugh!
 
What.... the.... hell !????? Those are some godawful plays right there. Wow.
 
Fjones said:
This is very true. I hate many aspects of doing this. But I cnanot think of any other way to make a minimum of $25 an hour, and I see the potential to make $50 an hour if I just get my shit together and stop wasting my bankroll on stupid shit.

I was never a fan of cash games. I find them boring and irritating.

I started in the fall of 2004 on Party Poker when the site was still in its early stages, but I mostly dabbled for three years until the winter of 2007, when I started to play more seriously.

I think the games have gotten a bit tougher, but the fields are still pretty weak.

I never played on PokerStars. I hate the interface.
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This is a neat thread. I enjoy poker myself.

Just one word of warning: it may be a little difficult, come tax time, to explain these earnings to the IRS. I have no idea what the tax implications are, but it's something worth looking into before making this a primary form of income.

And anyone smart enough to play games like you all are is smart enough to find an occupation that pays $50 an hour, or much more.
 
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