A Question of DOC and LSD

[Chocolate-Salad]

Psychedelic Experience List (In order):
*Questionable* LSD
Mushrooms Dry/Fresh up to 50g fresh
DMT
4-AcO-DMT
4-HO-MET
25i
4-HO-MiPT
DOC
(I might be forgetting one or two, I apologize)


Six Months Ago:
I embarked on my first trip with psychedelics. Me and a friend who I was very close to (at the time) and living with each took 1.5 blotter hits of what I was told was legitimate LSD. The experience was beautiful and burned into my memory. The feelings reminded of all of the trip reports I've read through many months over forums and of course erowid. (Psychedelics always intrigued me, I feel most comfortable with shrooms because I consider it to feel very natural, but everyone experiences trips differently. Even though I've experienced RCs, I wouldn't rate them higher than shrooms (even though 4-AcO-DMT metabolizes into 4-HO-DMT supposedly and 4-HO-MiPT (my second favorite) may as well be equally natural if I'm not mistaken.)

Present Day
I recently experienced two DOC trips, first 2.5 mg and then 4.5 mg. The trips were both beautiful. One was alone, and the other shared. The thing is, this trip reminded me exactly of LSD, I wouldn't have been able to discern the two if I had taken them each within a short time period. Is it possible that I had not experienced legitimate acid? I felt so touched by the trip and it put me in such a better place. It makes me wonder what legitimate LSD could be like if this is the case.

Or, since LSD was my first trip taken with absolutely no tolerance (causing it to be quite strong), could my short but slightly extensive use of mushrooms (bi-monthly) along with tripping a bit too much on tryptamine RCs cause an abnormally high tolerance to psychedelic substances weakening/altering my DOC trips in such a way that they feel like LSD.


I've slowed my tryptamine use as I'm becoming an adult and they've been a teacher telling me to use as a strong emotional massage when I really need it. I currently don't plan on finding tryptamines for quite some time and now trip once monthly as most. All of my trips have been therapeutic, but I think it's better this way.

But please, input? Those who've experienced both, would you call them similar at this dosage? My DOC trips weren't longer than 14 hours (I believe due to tolerance) so I can't use time as a comparison. I Have an afterglow the next day as well, same as I did with my first ever trip.

Thankyou
-Classic

 

[Help?!?!]

A lot of people comment that DOC and LSD have similar qualities so its not to surprising. I'm not sure if i've heard anyone claim them to be "indistinguishable" from each other but many people find them fairly similar in certain respects. Personally I don't see it to much beyond the sense of serenity they can both provide but thats just me.

 

[JBrandon]

If you don't have much experience with them then it would be very hard to tell them apart.

Don't be misled by all the reports with 14+ hour DOC trip durations. I've yet to have a DOC experience exceed 10-12 hours.

 

[Dr Mamba]

IMO DOC feels just like the middle point detween LSD and 2CB.
Very close to LSD, the difference is LSD have more crisp visuals, more detailled and sophisticate, "haute couture" style.
DOC is a little more on the DMT side, with more flashy and cartoonish visuals.
IMO...

 

[azzo]

Imo LSD and DOC are very similar in many ways and i love them both, but for me it is easy to recognize one the other because LSD gives me much more energy, while with DOC i'm not so active and DOC in my cases lasted much longer than 2 or 3 hits of LSD.
I never did DOC at 2mg, always from 3.5 to 4.5mg and it never lasted less than 20 hours, the peak lasts really long with DOC, around 10 hours at solid+3.
In fact even if i like DOC i can't take it often because i need 3 days free, usually i can't sleep for more than 1 day from when i've taken it and then i sleep really much to 'recover'.
But well i have to admit i'm not experienced with really high doses of LSD because the blotters here aren't so strong and each one cost at least 15 euro so i just don't like to spend so much for one trip, but anyway it usually last like half of DOC on me.