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a question about the addictiveness of heroin

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ucla_vince

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I've been curious about trying heroin for a long time, but I'm concerned about just how powerful/addictive it is. My primary concern is that once I try it, I will lose control and become an addict. So I'd like to get your opinions...

Since we're talking about something as subjective as individual drug experience, I'm well aware that I may not really be able to gain any useful information here, but I'm curious anyway.

So what I'm asking is this. I've used MDMA before, but no longer use it (the last time was several years ago). I enjoyed using it on a few occasions, but at no time did I ever feel overpowered by it or that I couldn't control my urge to continue using it. And as I previously mentioned, I no longer use it at all. So, anyone out there that has tried both MDMA and Heroin, what is your opinion on the comparative addictiveness of the two drugs? Do you feel that Heroin had a significantly stronger "pull" on you or that it was considerably harder for you to control your use of Heroin compared to MDMA?

Also, I've noticed that I seem to have something of a natural tolerance for opiates. [EDITED - Yes, you do have a high tollerance to opioids]

Please only reply if you have personal experience with using Heroin.

Thanks
 
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I think heroin is less than 2x as addictive as oxycodone (oxycontin, percocet) and no, you don't try it once and become a hopeless addict. What might happen though is you might fall in love with this great new feeling and look at life from a different perspective. Kind of like after the first time you masterbate, you have this new activity that makes you feel good and it all depends on how much you like getting high vs your priorities. Also, after a while of consistent use (10-14 days) you have physical withdrawl as another reason to keep using, but that isn't a worry from day one, thats further down the road.
 
I found that the first time I smoked a cap of heroin - I felt as though it gave me the feeling I'd been looking for in a drug for a long time. I knew the feeling was not one to be reckoned with - at the same time I knew I'd be doing it again sometime in the not too distant future.

ANyway I've been chipping away with heroin for 3 years now, keeping it to an average of once a week or so. At one stage I almost had a bad habit - but that passed.

Comparing heroin (or any opiate high) with MDMA is difficult. I remember my first MDMA experience, in my enlightened state, I thought it was a feeling that needed to be cherished and definately not abused - at the same time I knew i'd be trying it again at some stage. Heroin is different. You can take some heroin and, as long as it's not a large dose, you can go about your day to day business with that itchy contentment. The high itself is, IMO, much more psychologically alluring.
 
opiates are really really seductive in their own way...

in a much diff. class than all other drugs, addiction wise.

well, opiate addiction is the classic model of "drug dependency". The physical and psycological addction. tolerance...
 
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It deprends on how good you are at lying to yourself. Because believe me once you open the door, you will want to return and return as often as you let yourself and there's the trick, I couldn't control it I even told myself I did't care (of cause we all do to some extent) if I became addicted.
 
Try snorting a solid dose of oxycontin and see if you like the feeling of opiates (i couldnt imagine who wouldnt, yet there are some). Eating the contents of a fentanyl patch is not a good way of getting high, you would have gotten more out of it by simply wearing it as it was designed. Dont stigmatize heroin to be some sort of super-addictive wonder drug, there are many opiates than when injected provide a similar if not better sensation. You dont have to shoot heroin to have a complete opiate experience.........

And what the hell does MDMA have to do with heroin? They dont belong in the same paragraph........But im sure you already know what heroin feels like, since its a major ingredient in your rolls.....Right?
 
And what the hell does MDMA have to do with heroin? They dont belong in the same paragraph........But im sure you already know what heroin feels like, since its a major ingredient in your rolls.....Right?
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I think, wait, as a matter of fact I know negro was just joking, and a funny joke at that.


Heroin is very comparable to oxycodone, except heroin is more sedating. Or at least I find,...
 
inimical said:
I think, wait, as a matter of fact I know negro was just joking, and a funny joke at that.
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LOL! You mean those little brown specks in my pills aren't really heroin? I guess my Mom was wrong about that too......
 
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It deprends on how good you are at lying to yourself. Because believe me once you open the door, you will want to return and return as often as you let yourself and there's the trick, I couldn't control it I even told myself I did't care (of cause we all do to some extent) if I became addicted.
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Scottahit, trying heroin once does not guarantee he will go back again and again. I've tried it a few times snorted, and never really get the urge to do it. On the other hand, I can see how once the frequency of use is high that this drug can become a big problem...
 
I've been curious about trying heroin for a long time, but I'm concerned about just how powerful/addictive it is. My primary concern is that once I try it, I will lose control and become an addict. So I'd like to get your opinions...
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It depends on your personality. Any drug you can lose control on and become an addict.

So, anyone out there that has tried both MDMA and Heroin, what is your opinion on the comparative addictiveness of the two drugs?
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I find MDMA to be more addictive then heroin. When I was coming down off a roll I was always looking for another. Even though I knew it would have no effect on me I still wanted another pill. With heroin I take a shot and thats it I enjoy it for as long as it lasts and then I go on about my day.
 
MDMA is mildly addictive, while in my opinion heroin is the most addictive substance out there and many health books agree because unlike coke/amp it has both physical and mental withdrawl.
 
It also wasn't specified what way the Heroine would be administered. I tried IVing it and later snorting it, and no surprise that they were almost like 2 different highs. Snorting it was not all that impressive, in my opinion, but I would assume it is less addictive, to what degree I really don't know. How does smoking it compare to snorting?
 
You can only smoke tar correct?


I wasn't that impressed with snorting it, although the product wasn't the best either. 2x $10 sacks should be enough for someone with a mild opaite tolerance to get off right? Shit...
 
I haven't heard much about smoking, but I think you vaporize it. I know you can smoke opium.
 
i started using H like 3 months ago, and I wouldnt by any means say go ahead of use it, because people are abusive of this drug all the time. is eveyrone? no. is the drug inherently evil? not by a long shot.

i was surprised at how unimpressive it was (snorting). i still like it, and it has grown on me (one thing I can say about opiates is they REALLY grow on ya), but as long as you know what it is, treat it with respect, I think you will be fine. again, know what it is, its heroin, you cant just use it whenever you want like weed and not face real consequences (quitting weed is a joke by comparison).

use it sparingly, and have other things in your life to keep you busy. the only ways i can see one getting addicted, is by either having absolutely nothing to do, so they get high all the time and have no regard for themselves, or they are really careless and think that using all the time will not lead to a problem. so i guess the 2 tips, always remember what it is, and care about yourself

your first time may suck, be ready to throw up if you do too much
 
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