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A novice of powders, 2C-E specifically

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Acid Miller

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So someone has 100mg of 2C-E. He's left with a few problems.
Firstly, what should he take as a recommended dose? 10, 20mg?
Then, how does he measure this? Too poor for scales. He's very good with splitting powders in halves, quarters etc.. but aware that this is inefficient and potentially dangerous.
Also, how should he take it? He hates snorting, and the 2C-X nasal pain doesn't appeal at all. Anal is a no-go. He's eaten 2C-B powder and downed with water previously but it didnt do much. Was this something to do with the way he took it? 30mg of 2C-B should be more than enough. Is it okay to swallow powders with water?

Also experiences worth sharing on 2c-e are appreciated, got a lot to look forward to according to stories %)
 
If you know for a fact you have exactly 100mg 2C-E you can dissolve it in a known amount of solvent and consume a proportion of the solution which contains the desired dosage. However, it's unlikely you know if you have 100mg if you do not have scales.

Swallowing powders with water is fine and probably your best bet if rectal and insufflated is out of the window.

Talk in first person. We know it's you.
 
if you are sure that you have 100mg, you can consider using volumetric measurement. but i highly recommend buying a scale. if you have money for drugs, you have money for a scale.

oral dosages according to erowid:
Threshold
2 - 5 mg
Light
5 - 10 mg
Common
10 - 15 mg
Strong
15 - 30 mg
Heavy
25 - 40 mg

i also highly recommend that you don´t eyeball 2c-e. there are worlds between a 10mg and a 20mg trip.
 
Yeah, the best way is to just dissolve it in a glass of water and swallow. That's how I do all of my 2C's. You could even mix in a little honey and a drop of peppermint oil to conceal the taste.

When you did 2C-B that way, did you drink it on a full stomach? That could've prevented it from kicking in.
 
First of all if you've never taken it before be sure to take a small "allergen-response" dose. This will afford you the liberty to take more. Maybe about .5 mg if you can weigh that small, though it's simple using liquid measurement (something you should be doing anyhow).

Secondly, defer to what varg posted and use the erowid guidelines for dosing. I'd do the smallest possible for a first time, since we're trying to persuade against harm. Later on you after this (second total) succesful dose, you can enjoy yourself properly with an 18mg dose.

Third time's a charm.
 
buy a scale
also if you dilute your drugs in water make sure to color them and label it so it does not get mistaken for water or soda
 
I've decided that I'm not much of a fan of 2c-e at all.

While it does have more in the visual department compared to the other 2c I have tried, 2c-i, I find that it doesn't do a whole lot more and the 'negative' effects of it far outweigh the enhanced visuals. YMMV but for me it totally sucks any sort of euphoria out of the equation and puts me in a very dark place, which you'll read from a lot of other sources. One evening when I was doing 4mmc I added 2c-i into the equation and things were very rushy, euphoric, and visually intense, which I loved. I decided to get a little crazy and add some 2c-e into the equation, figuring that the current euphoria and good vibes all around would 'level out' the dark feeling from the 2c-e and provide me with a much more intense visual experience. False. At least for me, what it did was totally suck the good vibes out of the equation and bring everything in a way back to baseline. What I was left with were heightened visual disturbances and a racing heart, but none of the good stuff. I ended up very agitated and unable to sit still or lie down for the next 6 hours or so.. it totally sucked ALL the fun out of what I was experiencing..

Again your mileage may vary but for me, 2c-e hasn't ever been enjoyable no matter whether im taking it on its own or attempting to mix to take its dark edge off..

I have probably 150mg or so left which I don't see myself touching for a very long time unless I find myself in a spot where I feel like causing myself pain, which is probably not the best place to be when taking any sort of psychedelic.

As everyone said, start low and work your way up.. oh and I'd advise against snorting it, it burns like hell. And im not talking one of those rushy WOOOYEAHH that burns exhilerating feeling... no, its more of a "oh god wtf did I just do why did i do that oh god everything hurts kill me please" burn
 
infantannihilator said:
I've decided that I'm not much of a fan of 2c-e at all.

While it does have more in the visual department compared to the other 2c I have tried, 2c-i, I find that it doesn't do a whole lot more and the 'negative' effects of it far outweigh the enhanced visuals. YMMV but for me it totally sucks any sort of euphoria out of the equation and puts me in a very dark place, which you'll read from a lot of other sources. One evening when I was doing 4mmc I added 2c-i into the equation and things were very rushy, euphoric, and visually intense, which I loved. I decided to get a little crazy and add some 2c-e into the equation, figuring that the current euphoria and good vibes all around would 'level out' the dark feeling from the 2c-e and provide me with a much more intense visual experience. False. At least for me, what it did was totally suck the good vibes out of the equation and bring everything in a way back to baseline. What I was left with were heightened visual disturbances and a racing heart, but none of the good stuff. I ended up very agitated and unable to sit still or lie down for the next 6 hours or so.. it totally sucked ALL the fun out of what I was experiencing..

Again your mileage may vary but for me, 2c-e hasn't ever been enjoyable no matter whether im taking it on its own or attempting to mix to take its dark edge off..

I have probably 150mg or so left which I don't see myself touching for a very long time unless I find myself in a spot where I feel like causing myself pain, which is probably not the best place to be when taking any sort of psychedelic.

As everyone said, start low and work your way up.. oh and I'd advise against snorting it, it burns like hell. And im not talking one of those rushy WOOOYEAHH that burns exhilerating feeling... no, its more of a "oh god wtf did I just do why did i do that oh god everything hurts kill me please" burn
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Funny, 2C-E reliably gives me that feel good energetic feeling, and 2C-P especially.

To the OP: Just make a liquid solution, I don't think a scale is necessary just do tiny amounts at first to allergy test it / make sure it isn't way more than 100 mg (I doubt it is but who knows)
 
and thats the beauty of everyone being different, hah :P

don't get me wrong, the come up gives me that but once it really kicks in its like a dark cloud comes over me and all those good feelings, euphoria and rushyness quickly wash away.. its hard to describe, as is any psychedelic experience I'm sure you'll agree. Someone will mention that set and setting make a difference, and surely they do, but I've tried it a number of times in different set/settings and its been quite the same each time, even when combinations are involved, leading me to feel that, at least for me, the effects are pretty reliably consistent.
 
Buy a scale, go to the scales thread and find out about the types that cost only about 20$ that are exteriorly built like crap but often enough got a decent enough mechanism to at least dose something like 2C-E. So if you can afford the 2C-E you can buy the scales. Trust me, it is not worth overdosing on strong psychedelics to be a cheapskate about 20 bucks.

Meanwhile you can use volumetric measurement by putting in vodka or another relatively clean mix of water and at least 15-20% alcohol (30-40 proof), but you gotta know the original amount first. If you got it from someone who you saw weighing it or trust with your life, you could assume it is 100 mg but otherwise consider that vendors often provide too little or too much.
Splitting and eyeballing is really not cool, this is another league entirely than for example things like stims with moderate - hundred(s) of milligram - potency.

About the dose: Be aware that 2C-E has a dose-response curve that starts getting steep between around 10-15 mg and very much so between 15-20 mg and above. Take a look at the 2C-E dosage subthread here:
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/399305-2C-E-Subthread-2C-E-Dosage-and-Methods-of-Administration
And use that info to make your definitive decision about where to start with your dose.

Actually the responsible thing to do is starting with 1 mg, then if no reaction at all 3 mg some other day, and 10 mg at a later time still.

And yeah you can just swallow / eat / drink the powder with water, that is the best way anyway IMO (well plugging may be superior but that wasn't an option here)

Last but not least: saying SWIM or talking hypothetically about yourself or referring via pets and other entities is forbidden on BL forums, and it is a myth anyway that it would be helpful. Luckily there isn't really need for it either as long as you don't confess to serious stuff. Drug use isn't serious. Well it is but only for yourself of course. ;)
 
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I haven't tried dosing past 25mg except for redosing which only extended the duration as I'd tripped the night before as we'll.
However the difference between 20mg and 25mg is very noticeable
 
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