Opioids A few questions i should of asked before i jumped in

[pirates_]

I was reading threw some old threads on the site, mostly regarding heroin, and I just realized 2 things. 1) I had no idea what I was getting into, and 2) I do not no too much about the substance that has become a part of my every day life. But this post is mostly in regards to me not knowing shit about the drug

When i fist started doing it, I would do tiny little bumps at a time, and feel alittle weird, I even think i got a few panic attacks the first couple time I tried it.. and then I gradually increased my dosage as I learned to enjoy it a little bit more. Now, being the user that I am, I find my self doing quite large doses, and I am a bit scared cuz I do not know how much is too much. I never had anybody show me the ropes on this stuff.

So here is what I am asking, how do I know when I did just the right amount? latley I have been doing enough where I start to freak out cuz i began to have to fight to keep my eyes open and my breathing gets really slow, not too slow, but noticably slower.

How long should I wait after the inital rush wears off before I do more

and dare i think ahead and ask.. if i decide to start shooting it, how much should I start with, and what can I expect. Now, I do not want to hear any dont do its and what now, I just wanna get some advice on dosing SHOULD I ever decide to go to that side.

 

[Captain.Heroin]

If you are going to IV it, you want to start with a third to half of a snorted dosage. You want to look into micron filtering though, in order to ensure you are safely filtering the dope. You can learn more about this through the last link in my signature.

 

[andrewktron]

Whatever you do, please be careful.

 

[NeighborhoodThreat]

^What these guys said.

Again and again. Opiate addiction is very real.

 

[pirates_]

I know its real. I just wanted to know tho. As far as dosing goes, I will try to to less than what I snort. I got to factor in the cut. But back to snorting the stuff. What about my other questions?

 

[my84firebird355]

I was reading threw some old threads on the site, mostly regarding heroin, and I just realized 2 things. 1) I had no idea what I was getting into, and 2) I do not no too much about the substance that has become a part of my every day life. But this post is mostly in regards to me not knowing shit about the drug

When i fist started doing it, I would do tiny little bumps at a time, and feel alittle weird, I even think i got a few panic attacks the first couple time I tried it.. and then I gradually increased my dosage as I learned to enjoy it a little bit more. Now, being the user that I am, I find my self doing quite large doses, and I am a bit scared cuz I do not know how much is too much. I never had anybody show me the ropes on this stuff.

So here is what I am asking, how do I know when I did just the right amount? latley I have been doing enough where I start to freak out cuz i began to have to fight to keep my eyes open and my breathing gets really slow, not too slow, but noticably slower.

How long should I wait after the inital rush wears off before I do more

and dare i think ahead and ask.. if i decide to start shooting it, how much should I start with, and what can I expect. Now, I do not want to hear any dont do its and what now, I just wanna get some advice on dosing SHOULD I ever decide to go to that side.

to your first Q - the amount you did to get you like that just cut down a little bit on your next dose 2nd Q - about 3 -4 hours 3rd question - what ever your dose is try 1/4 of it, as soon as you pull the pin out after hitting in about 2 sec you will feel what most people call a rush, but I call it a drop cuz i feel like im plunging into the most relaxed euphoric state of mind. that only lasts for a few seconds, however you may still feel a lingering rush/drop for up to 3 minutes, then you kinda feel nomral for a little while and then you get a serious case of the nodds. hope that helped somewhat

 

[sveets]

If you are going to IV it, you want to start with a third to half of a snorted dosage. You want to look into micron filtering though, in order to ensure you are safely filtering the dope. You can learn more about this through the last link in my signature.

This is great advice and this is why this site is so helpful.

But...,

in my honest opinion if you are seriously considering moving to banging instead of snorting, it is time to get clean. Find a suboxone doc that works with your insurance (i'm paying 3 bucks for 30 8mg strips and like 15 bucks per visit) or just get some subs on the street.

Once you delve into the world of shooting heroin you are on a whole nother level of addiction.

 

[verso]

I was reading threw some old threads on the site, mostly regarding heroin, and I just realized 2 things. 1) I had no idea what I was getting into, and 2) I do not no too much about the substance that has become a part of my every day life. But this post is mostly in regards to me not knowing shit about the drug

When i fist started doing it, I would do tiny little bumps at a time, and feel alittle weird, I even think i got a few panic attacks the first couple time I tried it.. and then I gradually increased my dosage as I learned to enjoy it a little bit more. Now, being the user that I am, I find my self doing quite large doses, and I am a bit scared cuz I do not know how much is too much. I never had anybody show me the ropes on this stuff.

So here is what I am asking, how do I know when I did just the right amount? latley I have been doing enough where I start to freak out cuz i began to have to fight to keep my eyes open and my breathing gets really slow, not too slow, but noticably slower.

How long should I wait after the inital rush wears off before I do more

and dare i think ahead and ask.. if i decide to start shooting it, how much should I start with, and what can I expect. Now, I do not want to hear any dont do its and what now, I just wanna get some advice on dosing SHOULD I ever decide to go to that side.

It's normal that you would need to increase your dose; I remember snorting half a bag of some OK dope and getting a real kick out of it. I get much better dope now and two or three bags usually puts me right where I want to be.

But you should still be careful not to assume that one batch is the same quality as another. In other words, it's still a good idea to take small bumps at first whenever you pick up.

Now, I don't know if this would even be an option for you at this point, but try taking some time off from using; or, alternatively, try taking very small doses for a little while once you notice your tolerance increasing.

For example, I'll sniff just one full bag or even half a bag a day for a little while until my tolerance begins to go down. Does half a bag put me where I want to be? No, of course not, but it does enough for me that I'm not looking for more dope. I can taste it in the back of my throat, and I get a little buzz, and I'm good for the day.

It's also a lot easier to "jump off" going from half a bag to 0 than going from 4 bags to 0. That way, when you find yourself in a tough spot, without money or unable to pick up or whatever, it's more of a step down from using to not using as opposed to a gigantic leap.

As to "how much is too much," that's a tough one. It's too much when you fall asleep, stop breathing and die. How do you know when you're getting to that point, and will you have enough time to do something about it? I don't know, and I don't think so. For me, I like to feel my muscles relax; I like the itching, and I like to feel that dreamy state. If I can't hold my head up at all and I'm drooling on myself, then I've taken too much. But hey, some people like not being able to hold their head up and drooling on themselves. To each their own.

Now, I know you don't want to hear this, but I would not recommend going the IV route. If you think your tolerance is high now, just wait until you start banging it. And if "getting clean" is a frightening prospect to you now, just sniffing the shit, oh man, oh man... and that's all I have to say about that.

 

[Wolfmans_BrothEr]

Whenever I pick up I'll always snort one bag to start off just to feel for quality, then I judge it from there how much more I need

I don't shoot dope but those I know who do all say the first shot is the most important. If you shoot it and it's not enough...then try shooting more, you miss out on the rush which is what every dope addict shoots for.

Seriously dude don't start spiking. It puts you on a whole 'nother level unlike when you were railing bags. The people I know who IV absolutely refuse to snort it. Even if they have to drive out of state to get spikes (since they don't sell them in nj), they'll drive the extra hour or w.e it is than just snort a bag

And then it'll lead to you not having enough gas or $ to get spikes so you start using old sets, or sharing sets....then you end up like the dude in requiem for a dream. Seriously dude just dont, I've crossed a lot of moral lines I've set for myself but sticking a needle in my arm just wasn't one and I'm so proud of myself for that

 

[sveets]

This is great advice and this is why this site is so helpful.

But...,

in my honest opinion if you are seriously considering moving to banging instead of snorting, it is time to get clean. Find a suboxone doc that works with your insurance (i'm paying 3 bucks for 30 8mg strips and like 15 bucks per visit) or just get some subs on the street.

Once you delve into the world of shooting heroin you are on a whole nother level of addiction.

Sorry I didn't mean this to sound like "GO GET CLEAN". I use my subs to take extended breaks from opiates and by taking tiny ammounts of suboxone a day for 2-3 weeks i notice that my opiate of choice tolerence goes down a pretty significant ammount. I have to intentions of becoming completely sober when it comes to opiates, but i have learned over te years that everything is better in moderation. The subs are just there as my crutch to help me walk through periods without opiates and its MUCH MUCH easier than trying to take a cold turkey tolerence break

 

[nikkithechihuahua]

This is great advice and this is why this site is so helpful.

But...,

in my honest opinion if you are seriously considering moving to banging instead of snorting, it is time to get clean. Find a suboxone doc that works with your insurance (i'm paying 3 bucks for 30 8mg strips and like 15 bucks per visit) or just get some subs on the street.

Once you delve into the world of shooting heroin you are on a whole nother level of addiction.

I absolutely agree dude. It's only going to screw everything you have up. You have no control over it even if you think you do. That's from my experience anyways.