IRONMAN420
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Subs and testing , opiate cross tolerance and comparison , and personal experience regarding tolerance....
Hello bluelighters , I jump around on this thread a little but I am addressing the drug test issue first as a matter of importance , also shared my first exp on sub and reduction of tolerance and bio comparisons between , oxy , dillys, and opanas , it seems that Iv a 30 is only equal to about 3 Mgs of hydro and 2 Mgs of opana ir , I can get my doc to switch me back to dillys , probably would last me longer but then because of low bio oral or insufflated , I'd be probe to bang then more often , was also thinking of opana ir while not as strong orally insufflated or banged seems 3-6 times the strength , of 30 , the 10 Mgs , now w/ the old school er I tried the alc prep w/ 1/4 or half a 40 but it felt no where near that strong of course I'm aware you probably lose half in prep.. Then my other concern is the expense , are opana 10 mg avail in generic , and cost experience ... Sorry for digressing back to original question , reply where and what you want to ; also I'm
A new bluelighters so any suggestions on where to post theses ?s and of Better in another area or attached as a reply or thread , any advice appreciated ....
I see a PM doc on a monthly basis , which I am now on a regimen of Opana 40 er( which were kick ass until this new formula change ) 3-4 times daily and oxycodone 30 6x a day . I used to be on a much larger dose so don't judge and recently had to make a choice to drop my roxies or dilaudids and had to drop one or the other , thinking of making some med changes , because I occasionally bang the blue monkey but I am digressing , point was a seems if I am going to bang occasionally a different short acting increases bio when Iv but Ox stays about same strength , once again getting off topic so let me get to the point....
I am sure some of you have had similar experiences , in my area it's very hard to get a oxy 30 Rx filled and the long acting opana which is now not nearly has effective is through an assitance program and doesn't always come on time , I had to fill a partial on my blues and ran out b4 I got my opana then when I got remainder of partial frm PM I couldn't find a place to fill it , so I was out of everything and had some subs stored away as emergency so if caught in this type of sitch I wouldn't be a total mess, I took about a 16 mg dose Thursday , about 6-8 Mgs Friday, 3-5 Mgs Saturday and Sunday I only took mayb 2mgs , Monday I didn't dose at all, my opana came and was able to fill 30s same day , lucky , pheeew, anyway dosed my 30s about 3pm 18hrs since sub dose and actually felt bout half by that night seemed like bupe stopped blocking , also a separate question and I know I a digressing again but it's been strange , have been on ops for bout 10 yrs , quit a few times for a few months once cold Turk (pure hell, once w/ tapering dones , but chronic sstomach issues and pain always brought me back, but now dose is lower and maintaining. Anyway the strange thing is it seems just the 4 days in bupe and my tolerance is different , I've felt much more sedated and more of my opiates at a decreased level and this is first time I ever took subs .. I heard reduction of tolerance took months ????
Back to original and MOST Important ? In this thread , after the amount of subs took , 12-16mg thurs, 8-10 mg fri, 4 mg sat , 2-3 mg sun, Monday 0 Mgs, my Pm appt is this coming tues , a week and a day from last sub dose , I was even going to try and get in today , in few hrs early , which being Monday , would be a week from last dose , last dose was one week from prior sun... So 7-8 days , Will or should I be clear I'm pretty sure they test for subs , I've done research seen everything from 72 hrs to 9-11 days but I'm sure this us diff depending on how long you've been taking it ...??? Any guidance would help , don't want to screw myself and if waiting a day will help I'm fine w/ it ?
Hello bluelighters , I jump around on this thread a little but I am addressing the drug test issue first as a matter of importance , also shared my first exp on sub and reduction of tolerance and bio comparisons between , oxy , dillys, and opanas , it seems that Iv a 30 is only equal to about 3 Mgs of hydro and 2 Mgs of opana ir , I can get my doc to switch me back to dillys , probably would last me longer but then because of low bio oral or insufflated , I'd be probe to bang then more often , was also thinking of opana ir while not as strong orally insufflated or banged seems 3-6 times the strength , of 30 , the 10 Mgs , now w/ the old school er I tried the alc prep w/ 1/4 or half a 40 but it felt no where near that strong of course I'm aware you probably lose half in prep.. Then my other concern is the expense , are opana 10 mg avail in generic , and cost experience ... Sorry for digressing back to original question , reply where and what you want to ; also I'm
A new bluelighters so any suggestions on where to post theses ?s and of Better in another area or attached as a reply or thread , any advice appreciated ....
I see a PM doc on a monthly basis , which I am now on a regimen of Opana 40 er( which were kick ass until this new formula change ) 3-4 times daily and oxycodone 30 6x a day . I used to be on a much larger dose so don't judge and recently had to make a choice to drop my roxies or dilaudids and had to drop one or the other , thinking of making some med changes , because I occasionally bang the blue monkey but I am digressing , point was a seems if I am going to bang occasionally a different short acting increases bio when Iv but Ox stays about same strength , once again getting off topic so let me get to the point....
I am sure some of you have had similar experiences , in my area it's very hard to get a oxy 30 Rx filled and the long acting opana which is now not nearly has effective is through an assitance program and doesn't always come on time , I had to fill a partial on my blues and ran out b4 I got my opana then when I got remainder of partial frm PM I couldn't find a place to fill it , so I was out of everything and had some subs stored away as emergency so if caught in this type of sitch I wouldn't be a total mess, I took about a 16 mg dose Thursday , about 6-8 Mgs Friday, 3-5 Mgs Saturday and Sunday I only took mayb 2mgs , Monday I didn't dose at all, my opana came and was able to fill 30s same day , lucky , pheeew, anyway dosed my 30s about 3pm 18hrs since sub dose and actually felt bout half by that night seemed like bupe stopped blocking , also a separate question and I know I a digressing again but it's been strange , have been on ops for bout 10 yrs , quit a few times for a few months once cold Turk (pure hell, once w/ tapering dones , but chronic sstomach issues and pain always brought me back, but now dose is lower and maintaining. Anyway the strange thing is it seems just the 4 days in bupe and my tolerance is different , I've felt much more sedated and more of my opiates at a decreased level and this is first time I ever took subs .. I heard reduction of tolerance took months ????
Back to original and MOST Important ? In this thread , after the amount of subs took , 12-16mg thurs, 8-10 mg fri, 4 mg sat , 2-3 mg sun, Monday 0 Mgs, my Pm appt is this coming tues , a week and a day from last sub dose , I was even going to try and get in today , in few hrs early , which being Monday , would be a week from last dose , last dose was one week from prior sun... So 7-8 days , Will or should I be clear I'm pretty sure they test for subs , I've done research seen everything from 72 hrs to 9-11 days but I'm sure this us diff depending on how long you've been taking it ...??? Any guidance would help , don't want to screw myself and if waiting a day will help I'm fine w/ it ?
