A few questions about speed

[Jabberwocky]

i reckon smoking any type of speed is pretty much a waste imo. sure the initial rush might be ok, but the crash is terrible and the fiending that follows...

i find injecting meth/speed/ice the only way to go, or you could always stick it up ya bum as 3cho said.

 

[DexterMeth]

smoking it is really effective. i dunno wtf you are talking about. shooting speed will provide a crash that's just as bad if not worse. imo.

 

[Jabberwocky]

dude chill, it was just my opinion from my personal experiences. i dont generally crash all that hard after blats. but if i smoke it, the crash is hard and i find myself fiending more and more, not to mention the paranoia and edgyness it causes me. whereas i can have a few blats throughout the night/morning, and be wired for a lot longer and feels a lot cleaner.

i never said smoking it was ineffective, as it is very effective, but why smoke half a g of gear in a matter of a few hours as to being able to have 2 decent injections out of it over the course of a whole night.

 

[3ch0]

I think if you do not know what your doing you will probably waste a lot smoking it. IMO I would rather snort speed then any other way.

 

[pin]

, but why smoke half a g of gear in a matter of a few hours as to being able to have 2 decent injections out of it over the course of a whole night.

Is not like the speed is going to wear off anytime soon. Im sure shooting anything is way better on ur high than any other method or else nobody would be shooting. Smoking for me though I would rather do because its more of a ritual thing in my opinion, more enjoyable process, and you still get fucked up enough as it is. But to everyone else their own.

 

[drug_wench]

that crank shit doesnt do a thing 4 sum ppl......ADHD or not
i dont even notice a high from it, id need a point evry hour to keep my eyes open
waste of money getting anything amphetamine except meth IMO, esp if uve already discovered that shit doesnt do a thing for u
if thats all u can get and u want 2 persevere wiv it tho id smoke it - u shudnt hav a terrible crash from a bit of weak crank

 

[pin]

Yeah I dont have ADD and I love the shit out of amphetamines (aderrall mainly). I love other stuff way better but still. My friend who has ADD (gets prescribed 60 of the 30mg pills per month) loves it as well. I can stay up for days as long as I keep dosing every 4 hours or so.

 

[drug_wench]

i think its only ppl with the hyperactivity thing - ADHD - rather than plain ADD, that get sedated by speed

 

[Jabberwocky]

i find smoking it makes the high very short lived (as in being high for 2-3 hours, then crashing hard) in comparison to snorting, eating, iv, etc.

yer i know the ritual thing always plays a big part and is great social fun haha, i remember a few months ago when me and a few mates would sit and smoke for hours on end. but it was always a big let down when it was all consumed...then the fiending for more become apparent.

ive only been on the needle for around 6-7 months, but i havent gone back to any other method of intake, bar one exception when me and a mate railed up a few lines one night for good times sack, but i was already blatted up and had another shortly after.

i could easily go through a g, g and 1/2 snorting/eating in one night, whereas now im satisfied on a half...more if i wanna be greedy hehe.

but yes, each to their own.

peace out

 

[drug_wench]

if i wasnt squeamish about injecting myself id IV as well.......guess itsa gd thing or id b covered in trackmarks by now

 

[Jabberwocky]

is this "crank" stuff your refering to cut down phets or what? because where i am theres plenty supply of pure phets, but then again theres always the people cutting it 1:1 or whatever, which then will get cut again by the next person along the chain.

normally the shit left in the washy idicates how bad its been cut, and youll know as soon as it goes in wether its good anyway. i pretty much prefer the goo/powder form of phets, compared to meth. but ice is in a league of its own

 

[Diacetylus]

^Yerp, as far as I know "crank" is a very low purity form of methamphetamine... usually of not very good quality. I think some people refer to a very shitty "cooked product" as crank too.

This is my little personal opinion, and please... I don't mean this as an attack, or flame to any people that choose to IV their Speed/Meth, but honestly can't see how it would be enjoyable. I mean, of course... I am not one to knw, as I have never IV'ed anything before. But, from what I gather IV'ing Meth would feel extremely uncomfortable.

Does anyone that IV's Ice/Meth or even low quality cut speed/crank ever feel even the slightest bit like they are putting extra strain on their heart by IV'ing this drug? Don't you find it even a little bit too edgey and "wiggish"?
I have some friends say that sometimes, if the hit they get from their injection is big enough that they will go blind or blackout for like a few seconds... why is this and how can that be considered "fun" when your heart is racing like... 155BPM?

I have smoked Meth/Ice until I had a full-blown panic attack and thought I was dying. What is it like for those that shoot it? Surely you find the thumping heartbeat, the bloodfeelslikeplastic-feeling, the paranoia, the fidgeting, the anxiety and restlessness to be a little unbarable?

Actually, I thought that I would point out here that I once read a thread somewhere here (can't find it), that smoking Meth/Ice is actually more efficient than shooting it. Apprantly shooting is not as strong as smoking it either.

 

[Jabberwocky]

iv'ing meth isnt uncomfortable at all really, unless its some low quality cut shit, which as you said can turn into an edgy/wiggish feeling after a little bit.

its all about the intense rush as it comes on. one second your feeling all normal just chillin, then BAM your body is pumping all over, feels like youve just been charged up full of batteries.

personally, i never get a jumpy or racing heart, but on the odd ocassion after some cones it has got pretty jumpy but due to anxiety problems.

in relation to smoking vs i.v ice, ive done both and felt theres a distinct difference in the high between each administration. smoking gives me more of a head high and great euphoric body feeling. after the initial smoke comes out, its off into heavenly bliss as i can lay back and it feels like my whole body is floating and similar buzz to an mdma feeling.

whereas when ive iv'd it sorta of creeps up slowly, then all of a sudden its full time fried chicken after about 45- 1min. 10 times more intense than smoking. feels like my whole body is just pulsating, and every hair on my body is standing up. its as if i can feel all the dopamine being drained from me haha.

i dunno, its something you gotta do to really understand...i tried having a mate describe it to me before i ever iv'd anything, but you never know till youve done it yourself. hope this helped anyway.

merry christmas too everyone too

peace out

 

[bRiSvEgAs4lIfE]

^^^ When I shoot meth (which is ussually from wednesday to sunday every week) I feel very little increase in heart beat. The most noticable effect is an increase in body temp, as soon as it hits I am covered in sweat, that goes away within 10 minutes though. I never suffer from paranoia or anxiety and have never had a panic attack.

Shooting meth is a lot of fun, the rush is incredible and hits a lot harder than smoking it. That said, it is not for everyone and a lot of people I know do not enjoy it, they say that it feels dirty but I think that is the stigma attached to needles more than anything.

Edit: meant for Diacetylus

 

[runt]

^That's what I was thinking, but if it's "pasty/moist" then it will be hard to snort. If you get more of the moist stuff try drying it out with a lamp or something, if that doesn't work then the only thing you can do is get some real shards (crystals). Good Luck.

what i've done with the pasty/moist stuff is dab some on the end off something (plunger maybe) gently guide up nostril till near the end and BIG SHARP SNORT will get it in.keep going till all used up.

 

[runt]

thanks for the info guys, yeah i was thinking bout getting it cut and snorting it, hopefully there will be some pills in town so i wont have to worry bout speed, but yeah just wanna know how to make the best of it if i have to lol if ive got the pasty/moist shit, will spreading it on my gums work well? like absorb n shit, kos ive heard of a fair few ppl doing this

what u could do is get butter (minty sized blob ) and mix base into it , shape into a square put into freezer 4 good number of hours.When its a hard
block,use middle finger to push up ass, full finger length


u could do this making a somewhat smaller cube and alternatively put under tongue ,trying to keep a dry mouth and keeping it in place under tongue at all times.

 

[runt]

CreativeRandom: Yes, you could inject meth, but most people say it isn't to fun. Also, since he get this moist stuff there is no telling what could be in it, or if it even is methamphetamine.

LouReed: A point is .1 of a gram. There are 10 point in a gram.

Also, for smoking in some head shops they sell meth pipes. There like a glass tube connected to a dome type thing with a whole at the top of the dome. Like this: http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/dailypix/2005/Jan/19/il01a2_b.jpg

i've pinged this stuff on numerous occa.If u do go that way make sure u definately filter with .02 blue wheel.I have a bag in the freezer now actually .when i first got it i sat it on top of white paperwhile i did something or other,when i came back i noticed just how dodgey this shit is,the paper highlighted that fact by bringing to vision a blueish/greyish colour mix.When i took off paper and held up in font of me it looked the usual whiteish/semen coloured stuff no trace of blu/grey----WHAT THE FUCK!!!! now i'm wondering what the fuck i've been putting directly into myself 8( and am having serious reservations about finnishing it off.Wish i could get some off that clean crystal shit .

 

[runt]

CreativeRandom: Yes, you could inject meth, but most people say it isn't to fun. Also, since he get this moist stuff there is no telling what could be in it, or if it even is methamphetamine.

LouReed: A point is .1 of a gram. There are 10 point in a gram.

Also, for smoking in some head shops they sell meth pipes. There like a glass tube connected to a dome type thing with a whole at the top of the dome. Like this: http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/dailypix/2005/Jan/19/il01a2_b.jpg

soooo true could be crushed dex,ritalin mixed with a bit of water squished around baggy

 

[runt]

^Yerp, as far as I know "crank" is a very low purity form of methamphetamine... usually of not very good quality. I think some people refer to a very shitty "cooked product" as crank too.

This is my little personal opinion, and please... I don't mean this as an attack, or flame to any people that choose to IV their Speed/Meth, but honestly can't see how it would be enjoyable. I mean, of course... I am not one to knw, as I have never IV'ed anything before. But, from what I gather IV'ing Meth would feel extremely uncomfortable.

Does anyone that IV's Ice/Meth or even low quality cut speed/crank ever feel even the slightest bit like they are putting extra strain on their heart by IV'ing this drug? Don't you find it even a little bit too edgey and "wiggish"?
I have some friends say that sometimes, if the hit they get from their injection is big enough that they will go blind or blackout for like a few seconds... why is this and how can that be considered "fun" when your heart is racing like... 155BPM?



I have smoked Meth/Ice until I had a full-blown panic attack and thought I was dying. What is it like for those that shoot it? Surely you find the thumping heartbeat, the bloodfeelslikeplastic-feeling, the paranoia, the fidgeting, the anxiety and restlessness to be a little unbarable?

Actually, I thought that I would point out here that I once read a thread somewhere here (can't find it), that smoking Meth/Ice is actually more efficient than shooting it. Apprantly shooting is not as strong as smoking it either.

blurred vision not blindness ,is what happens.Your heart is strained heaps when jackin ,intense weight training or something similar gradually speeds up your heart where as this pastime ritual is like a sling shot firing your heart to its limits in seconds.Can definitely be risky for the not so young or fit,or for the fit and healthy for that matter.

 

[ferret5]

Tolerance builds fast basically requiring smoking/IV after chronic use.

Amp/methamp triggers a reaction in the brain,and continued long term use will result in the brain no longer being able to produce the desired effect no matter how much of the drug is ingested,it is neurotoxic and repeated high doses kill the receptors off.Smokings instant hit just allows a user to completely suck it dry and use up every last bit.The pounding heart,irritability,sleeplessness and psycosis will remain,but the rush is gone forever.


Meth addicts crash and burn at a frightening rate.

Snort it or eat it,if that wont get the job done give it up.Take magnesium to reduce neurotoxicity,and l-tyrosine.Avoid huge binges as much as possible.