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A few questions about K.

LogicSoDeveloped

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I recently acquired some Ketamine. I've never tried it before but have a lot of experience with psychedelics and other drugs. After I try it on its own, I wondered what would be a good first combo. I was thinking with my MDMA on Saturday as well as a little DMT if I feel really crazy.

Also, does anyone have any advice regarding Ketamine?

I'm pretty excited cause its been a while since I've tried something new. The last psychedelic I tried for the first time was 4-AcO-DMT in the fall.
 
I find that no matter the dose I get very nauseous when looking at text, sitting up, or moving. You might want to try a small amount, 30-50 mg, and see if this occurs for you too.
 
At what point during an MDMA experience is K best insufflated? My MDMA experiences usually last around 5-6 hours. This weekend will be my 5th time with MDMA, my first time being a year ago.
 
As far as solo K I'd go with what shish said, 30-50. Get a feel for it, that should be nice since it's your first time. As for the MDMA+K I'd say do it as you feel your peak is half way in coming on. At that point where you're sorta like, "I'm pretty sure I'm starting to peak." I've found that everyone has those little realizations. As for the dmt i'd save it for another day if you do K before you hit some. I've tried to do a nice line and then hit a pipe of dmt and I generally miss the are I put it in my pipe by a bit and don't get nice hits. K disorients you a bit as far as bodily movements go.

For combos I'd definitely say lsd + K is a good one. After you get familiar with k and combining it with other psychs i'd suggest doing k + lsd + mdma. Honestly my favorite combo as far as psychs go.

Good Luck and Be Safe!

Here's the megathread, definitely helped me out my first time.
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=447394&highlight=ketamine
 
any time after the peak, id say. personally i like to do it on the comedown

Yeah, I agree. I find having it on the comedown can sometimes make me feel as if i'm going right back up lol, in hindsight, probs just too gone on the K haha.
 
Have you browsed trough the Ketamine combo subthreads and the First Time Ketamine subthread?

They can be found through a link in the Big & Dandy Ketamine Thread - it's in the Index as well as the Beginner's FAQ.

Start off by trying it on its own like you said, I would say it really is best to do that for a good number of times before combining it because there is much to see and to get used to!
When combining try to stay away from alcohol (dizziness and vomiting!) and wait with doing K until you have reached a stable plateau with the other drugs.

Can you be a little more specific about your questions? Because for general advice you really just ought to read the extensive threads we have on the subject already and some info on Erowid.
 
i dont understand how someone would combine dmt with ketamine. have someone else administer it to you? just sounds very unsafe, and unpractical. plus i think it would ruin the dmt experience.


MDMA and ketamine is a totally unique dynamic. its a different experience, it wont fully feel like rolling or like ket. it feels cool, but imo, it so strongly diminishes the psychedelic potential of the ketamine that its a waste. still, interesting enough to try once.

imo ketamine is best taken entirely alone. ive done tons of K in my time, in fact it might be the only thing i would have a danger of becoming really addicted to. my personal fav thing is to do it in a dark room with just MilkDrop on a huge screen for winamp and some spaced out music of choice (no vocals, ambient electronica or some psychedelic world/downtempo music is best). its also really, really cool to watch astronomy, nature, or other science documentaries on (dont plan on comprehending a thing). I watched all of the show "The Universe" on K, i recall feeling like i was an asteroid slamming down into mercury at one point.

i also have such a horse like tolerance for K that i can do entire liqs of it myself in half a night, no problem.

work your way up to your preferred plateau. remember, it takes like 10 mins to fully know how much youve done and where its gonna take you. i LOVE k for its dynamic ability, you can take bumps and just feel a bit woosy (complete waste, imo), you can do small lines and still hang with the ppl around you but be half tripping (still, a complete waste imo), you can do large lines and trip the fuck out but still be able to speak words, though holding a conversation is difficult if not impossible (now youre talkin my style), and you can do huge lines and go so deep into the space beyond space that you feel like you just got kicked in the gut by God and all the angles are laughing at the newcomer (bingo).

if youre very experienced, its really interesting to mix with like 2 beers (this is not very safe). if youre the type that gets seasick easy, skip this one. i fucking love it when i cant even see anything cuz my eyes are looking two different directions and both views look like theyre spinning.

acid + k is insane. be spiritually prepared for this one. mushrooms and k is about the same, but im partial to acid.

any other stimulants, and ur wasting ur K. doing it with downers is stupid too, as youll numb the deep psychedelic headspaces K provides.

cannabis doesnt really make any difference if ur doign real doses of K. you wont even know you were stoned if you did a proper line/injection.

dont ever IV k, its completely stupid. if you dont know how to do an IM injection, you probably also dont have the right needles. look up intramuscular injections. youll save TONS of k, and get way, way higher.

now this does not imply that K is "safe," but the medicinal dose (what they give you, little kids, your grandma, yes all humans in the hospital) is far higher than the recreational dose. if you do "too much" ketamine, youll just black out and feel like you were on anesthesia, no mental effects at all. if you can get real close to your maximum tolerance before blacking out, its not unlike the powerful experiences you can have on DMT (though much more foreign and alien feeling, not as 'colorful' as DMT).

if youre going to cook it, do it with a hairdryer on low temperature. yes this takes a while and yes its a pain in the ass, but every other cooking method deionizes the ketamine and makes it much less psychedelic. dont ever microwave it, dont stick it in the oven. the really best way to do it is leave it in open air in a room thats like 60-70 degrees F, but thatl take like 12 hours to dry. hairdryer on low heat (NOT HIGH!) takes like 45 mins, but trust me its worth it. smoke a blunt and find some sick Carl Sagan-y documentaries to put on while you hold the hair dryer.
 
its a pain in the ass, but every other cooking method deionizes the ketamine and makes it much less psychedelic. dont ever microwave it, dont stick it in the oven.

Wrong, ketamine is ketamine any which way and it's stable enough to survive being cooked in the microwave or oven or whatever. "Deionizing" ketamine just... doesn't happen.
 
The time I remember combining ketamine and MDMA I was I was watching myself walk around this club; not really an OOBE, but just kind of floating behind my 'self' observing my actions as I was performing them. I think the MDMA gives an extra lucidity to the experience so you can recall moment by moment your experience of predestination and other strange phenomenon. LSD and ketamine combined was an amazing experience. Time was all spliced up and rearranged; I was experiencing the passage of time in a completely asynchronous and irregular order. Like climbing a set of ladders and then immediately being half-way through having a piss in the toilet, then suddenly laying on the floor stroking the cat, then starting the first half-of your piss. Mental.
 
K and MDMA is a heavenly combo, my favorite. I usually do a small bump on the comeup and then go hard once I've peaked.

K and LSD was insane. Was on one strong hit and decided I would do my usually big gnarly bump and that was a bad idea. I had thought that I died was never coming back, but I had also discovered how the world was run but didn't know by who. It was fucking nuts.
 
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