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A few AMT questions....

I think it was Shambles that swore by smoking it (if you have freebase).. A lot less nausea and a quicker come up..
 
anally is definitely the best route though i havn't tried it, i noticed if u have alcohol before it seems to speed the come up, but seriously...

this drug can be magical in the right setting , dosage doesn't need to be high, it will take a few times to get used to it ,

great drug, always a better replacement than speed and lasted longer than MDMA for longer sessions (ie. camping)

it takes a good 90 mins to come on, the first 3-4 hours can be slightly uncomfortable (ie the come up phase is the strangest part for me)

it lasts a long while, i wouldnt dose over 25mg to begin with, but thats me, i hear batches are worse ect, there was no way i could handle 60mg fyi

everyone is different tho, remember to tread carefully with it, its potent stuff, vaping it was disgusting 8(
 
Bare_head said:
anally is definitely the best route though i havn't tried it, i noticed if u have alcohol before it seems to speed the come up, but seriously...

this drug can be magical in the right setting , dosage doesn't need to be high, it will take a few times to get used to it ,

great drug, always a better replacement than speed and lasted longer than MDMA for longer sessions (ie. camping)

it takes a good 90 mins to come on, the first 3-4 hours can be slightly uncomfortable (ie the come up phase is the strangest part for me)

it lasts a long while, i wouldnt dose over 25mg to begin with, but thats me, i hear batches are worse ect, there was no way i could handle 60mg fyi

everyone is different tho, remember to tread carefully with it, its potent stuff, vaping it was disgusting 8(
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In a nutshell. My exact experience too.
 
CBA to read all the replies... aMT = <3

F.U.B.A.R. said:
Right, me and a load of old mates are going camping this weekend, as well as attending a vintage car and motorcycle show..

Predictably, there will be much alcohol and cannabis consumed - but I've just scored a load of AMT before the ban comes in and am toying with the idea of trying it out this weekend. However, the reports of nausea are a little off putting as I've never had AMT before. So I've got a few questions for anyone with experience (yes, I know there's an AMT megathread but I'm a lazy twat and can't be arsed trawling through it...)

1) How does AMT mix with alcohol and/or cannabis? Cannabis potentiates it very well... I get some very nice patterning when doing so.

2) How bad is the nausea likely to be, bearing in mind I get no nausea from mushrooms, mdma or 6-APB Personally, I get some mild nausea whilst coming up, which takes 2 hours.
3) How much headfuckuppery is it likely to cause? Whilst on it? At the doses below, just some out the box thinking. The next day... maybe a little muted.

4) Is it the sort of stuff you can enjoy being on in a public place during the day? Not a busy place IME, but yes. Helps to be with someone. Getting out in nature is great on it.

5) Would 20 - 30mg be enough for a decent first time (looking more for empathic stimulation rather than full on psychedelia)? 30mg would be spot on.

6) Is it possible to have a difficult experience like mushrooms? It is very forgiving but I found it was still possible to get a little 'fear'/bad juju. May have had something to do with my anxiety though. Easily avoided by though, as there will be an obvious cause. (for me busy town)

7) What is the best ROA? Put it in a capsule & bomb it. DO NOT SNORT IT. (you can snort HCl but not freebase)

Thanks in advance folks :)
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I've snorted the base before and I've had much worse.

beta-keto-2CB (HCl), now THERE is one you really do not want to snort. I ended up having to clear it out of my nose and dump much of the dose, before taking more via another route. Folks downstairs ended up shouting to ask if I was alright, after hearing the profuse stream of obscenities being loudly and freely used after that. Felt like somebody had just belted me in the nose with a hammer or something similar.

But AMT isn't too bad, only form I've had it in is the base, and I've taken some with me on a good few hikes, often whilst already on some MXE, and snorting little bumps of the AMT until I get where I want to be.

MUCH less nausea snorting. I imagine AMT might be a relatively strong 5HT3 receptor agonist (many of the seriously strong antiemetics, like zofran are antagonists at this site), and thus perhaps less prone to causing a lot of sickness if taken via a route avoiding the gut.

I find it a truly excellent entactogen with potential for full psychedelic effects at higher doses. IMO 30 would be too low, for me at least, much too low. Its very very VERY variable in user responses though, but I'd never bother taking less than maybe 50. This should be enough (orally, although I'd be comfortable enough doing that nasally), for its entactogen side to show, with a side dish of visual fun.

Too little and its kind of a real let down IMO, but once you have enough, its one of the best psychedelics around IMO, 'rolls royce' ain't far off the mark if you ask me. Love the stuff. Just remember its a mild MAOI when selecting combinations/judging med interactions.

I find it can at higher doses, feel really relaxing in the right circumstance, when I went out hiking on the stuff during warm weather, after I'd walked for a good while, and filled my collecting bags with mushrooms for supper when i got home, and picked a good supply of fly agaric, I'd often feel so light and floaty and relaxed that despite the strong and longlasting stimulant effects of AMT, I'd simply drift off, hit a bong or two and curl up at the base of a tree to take a nap for a while.

Amusingly, once when that happened, I got woken up and disturbed (was less pleased at the time) by a walker that thought I might be dead.
 
Does AMT go bad after awhile? i've got a batch here which i bought back in 2012, dunno if its a dodgy batch, or if its gone bad, or my body doesnt agree with it... tried it about 6 times, doses ranging from 40-80mg, a strange 4 hour comeup where i feel speedy for part of it, then kinda wavey, then sick, then i get the munchies whilst feel as sick as fuck, that goes on until it finally kicks in. Then i either get this lovely MDMA type of feeling, rushes, mild closed eye visuals, open eye sharpness. or i get the effects minus the MDMA style feeling, add some uncomfortable stimulation and a horrible heavy body load. i recall the body load was more heavy off 50mg than 80mg, 60mg-ish felt like the sweet spot
 
It starts to look very manky after a bit, but it's a fairly stable chemical and should be as good as the day you bought it. As long as you haven't stored it on a windowsill I wouldn't worry.

It's just very unpredictable stuff.
 
Thanks again for all your replies :)

I'm glad I asked the question now, because without the benefit of all your experience, I think I (and several of the others) would probably have tried a dose of 20/30mg and ruined the day completely. As it was, we all did shedloads of booze, skunk 'n' speed all weekend and had a most excellent time =D .

Regarding the nausea, if you happen to be susceptible to it, is it overwhelming or just annoying? I usually get nausea when I take sulphate orally - but I regard it more of a minor annoyance than something which ruins the experience.
 
I took around 30 - 40 mg. Plugged. Felt no sickness at all but was rather anti-social and felt laying down staring at the computer visualisations was more than welcomed. Over all I think my dose was too low. Slight swirling on the wall paper and felt quite euphoric but nothing spectacular. I've not tried since as I've not had the interest and the high is very very long. I was unable to sleep until early hours of the next day even with benzos to come down with. I hope this helps. I certainly recommend trying before to get a feel and a slightly higher dose than what I took
 
Yeah it goes on like a train. plugged is double the dose isnt it? 80mg is considered a high dose if i recall
 
If you over do it like 2-3 days in a row you can become a bit of a cunt and get no buzz more 12 hours of anger, due to lack of serotonin one would guess (could be dopamine) haven't used it in over a year

edit: fuck DMT on my 3-4 and th trip i could feel tubes being shoved in my mouth like i was in hospital, first two trips were nice but, but yeah DMT is really one if you are in a good place otherwise stay well away.
 
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ColtDan said:
Yeah it goes on like a train. plugged is double the dose isnt it? 80mg is considered a high dose if i recall
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I'm not sure and my scales were supposed to be pretty accurate but it was jumping all over the place between 30-40. Finally got it stable at 30 but I can't guarantee that was the dose. I certainly don't feel I took a high dose but I would definitely plug it again as others that evening felt more nauseous than I.
 
yoyo50 said:
edit: fuck DMT on my 3-4 and th trip i could feel tubes being shoved in my mouth like i was in hospital, first two trips were nice but, but yeah DMT is really one if you are in a good place otherwise stay well away.
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Definitely, to be treated with respect. its given me a slap around before for smoking it whilst drunk
 
Also to add mine has gone a funny colour also. A brownish tint to it. Still active although made my friend feel sick for several hours he did not enjoy it
 
Uncomfortable, electric, not very keen on the load at all. dunno why i only get it sometimes. however the body rushes off it can almost be orgasmic or something. seems quite hit and miss
 
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