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Misc a drug i can use before bed with amazing euphoria

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rehm2k3

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I love, love love stimulants but unfortunately I cannot sleep the same night as I have a short window to get high after work and I work long hours

ketamine grew on me but it doesn't have the euphoria i am looking for

I want god like euphoria, like mdma but i want to be able sleep soon after.. something like heroin except the heroin i had was really really sedating and shit, no euphoria at all.. perhaps i need another batch

any suggestions?
 
If you got no euphoria from 'heroin', its highly unlikely thats what it actually is. More likely nitazenes or fentalouges with xylazine or medatomidine in it, though it could be any sedative
 
Brother youre kind of asking for something that doesnt exist, you want a drug that you can use regularly before bed that causes amazing euphoria like MDMA? Heroin didnt do it for you? Any other suggestion is likely to lead to daytime use as well or not fit the profile of before bed.

Closest thing I can imagine if one had the discipline for it would be a single dose of GHB, unlikely to cause physical withdrawal with one single dose at night. But highly likely that one wont respect that rule. It also improves sleep unlike most other sedatives and releases GH.


Maybe a low-medium dose of Kanna for some serotonin, followed by a low dose of cannabis and then a medium SINGLE dose of GHB. Inhale nicotine while listening to music to amplify the euphoria. This is the closest thing to what youre describing that should still let you sleep.
God like euphoria like you said, also God-like odds that this will lead to addiction…
 
daturetard said:
If you got no euphoria from 'heroin', its highly unlikely thats what it actually is. More likely nitazenes or fentalouges with xylazine or medatomidine in it, though it could be any sedative
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well I wouldn't know at all tbh

it was the first batch of heroin I ever bought and I vomited the first time I took it and was nodding so I assumed it was heroin but just really cut? I don't know
 
TheLightBringer said:
Brother youre kind of asking for something that doesnt exist, you want a drug that you can use regularly before bed that causes amazing euphoria like MDMA? Heroin didnt do it for you? Any other suggestion is likely to lead to daytime use as well or not fit the profile of before bed.

Closest thing I can imagine if one had the discipline for it would be a single dose of GHB, unlikely to cause physical withdrawal with one single dose at night. But highly likely that one wont respect that rule. It also improves sleep unlike most other sedatives and releases GH.


Maybe a low-medium dose of Kanna for some serotonin, followed by a low dose of cannabis and then a medium SINGLE dose of GHB. Inhale nicotine while listening to music to amplify the euphoria. This is the closest thing to what youre describing that should still let you sleep.
God like euphoria like you said, also God-like odds that this will lead to addiction…
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what's GHB like?
 
rehm2k3 said:
what's GHB like?
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more like alcohol with some body euphoria, but it's far from god like unless you combine it with other things.

I'm looking for something similar but don't want to touch opiates, I'm reluctant to say it for fear of coming across as a fan boy, but quaaludes are what I think will most closely fit the bill but trying to get hold of them is impossible unless you're in SA, nearest I've found so far is an analogue 2-Methoxyqualone, it's got great body euphoria but so far I've not managed to take a strong enough dose of it to get to where I want to, and it needs cannibis and alcohol to make it work in the right way which is adding more and more CNS stacking risk to things given it's likely narrow window of feeling great to death, it also seems hard to find trusted vendors selling quality product - bit of a dilemma!

not sure why you want to do a sim session and them get some chilled god like euphoria straight after to unwind. why not just do stims and then take a sedative to unwind - benzo's often used for this, Nitrazepam is very hypnotic, though I like soma and xanax, or diazepam is good too to help with the day after too.

save the MDMA for another day instead maybe?
 
placebonaut said:
more like alcohol with some body euphoria, but it's far from god like unless you combine it with other things.

I'm looking for something similar but don't want to touch opiates, I'm reluctant to say it for fear of coming across as a fan boy, but quaaludes are what I think will most closely fit the bill but trying to get hold of them is impossible unless you're in SA, nearest I've found so far is an analogue 2-Methoxyqualone,
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We dont know the safety profile of 2-MeO-Qualone and the ramifications of daily use of such a compound. I fear it may be mutagenic and carcinogenic due to impurities like Quaaludes typically are.

Although I feel like OP is asking for a wonder drug, what gives you MDMA level euphoria and allows daily use at night while letting you sleep?
 
TheLightBringer said:
We dont know the safety profile of 2-MeO-Qualone and the ramifications of daily use of such a compound.
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yep 100%, analogues are poorly researched, we can likely guess that they will have similar addiction/dependence issues to ludes though

TheLightBringer said:
I fear it may be mutagenic and carcinogenic due to impurities like Quaaludes typically are.
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the main issue in other analogues is they use o-toluidine which is carcinogenic, more risk to the chemist really as it's not carcinogenic in the compound when bound. The problem is there can be an excess of un-reacted o-toluidine left in the product if the chemistry is bad - I'm talking here as a layman, others will better be able to explain it but think 2-Methoxyqualone isn't made using o-toluidine though which is 1 of the reasons I'm willing to try it, something about something different binding to the ring instead which means o-toluidine isn't needed.

TheLightBringer said:
Although I feel like OP is asking for a wonder drug, what gives you MDMA level euphoria and allows daily use at night while letting you sleep?
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exactly, unicorn farts.

I'm having to take risks (bad idea) and try combos to even head in that direction
 
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placebonaut said:
yep 100%, analogues are poorly researched, we can likely guess that they will have similar addiction/dependence issues to ludes though


the main issue in other analogues is they use o-toluidine which is carcinogenic, more risk to the chemist really as it's not carcinogenic in the compound when bound. The problem is there can be an excess of nu-reacted o-toluidine left in the product if the chemistry is bad - I'm talking here as a layman, others will better be able to explain it but think 2-Methoxyqualone isn't made using o-toluidine though which is 1 of the reasons I'm willing to try it, something about something different binding to the ring instead which means o-toluidine isn't needed.
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Yes but I suspect they might just use O-Anisidine instead (2-methoxy-aniline) which is also classed as a carcinogen.

Although with the proper purification the more common quaaludes outside of nitromethaqualone and the other nitrosamine analogues should not be mutagenic as far as Im aware.
 
I may be wrong, but IIRC it wasn't using O-Anisidine either, will have to dig out the source but think it was on a dark web forum but just had a search and couldn't find it. It might have been AI slop that told me that, asking it again and AI states it's not used
 
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rehm2k3 said:
what's GHB like?
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The first few times you use it alot like alcohol but with a bit more tactile and mental euphoria for a lack of a better word.

Once you start dosing daily or couple times a week -- it basically IS alcohol.

WARNING -- This is one of the easiest drugs to OD on. 1ml buzzed 2ml asleep 3 dead. It is not a viable option for nightly use if euphoria is what you want. If you simply desire sleep it may still be on the table. (Really as good as its gunna get nightly)
also the only drug I have ever flushed out of fear of addiction -- read some addiction horror stories before you try that stuff! I am glad I flushed mine (No I am not that was drug abuse, but I did not know anyone I trusted not to die that would want em)

Far as research chemicals that is an absolutely valid point - you are the guinea pig..... So I try and stick to the old pharma recipes that have SOME studies and data on them.....that failing I want to understand the mechanism of action and metabolites....

That all failing, I must be getting something like nbome for like 10 cents a hit and it convinced me to go 'eehhh fuckit the price is too good to pass"
The barbituate RC's tend to be significantly more dangerous than the benzo RC's -- same with barb v benzo classic.

Now there have been some GREAT RC's -- There was a time I could say tell me what drug you want I can get you a better version of it cheaper legally with confidence I was not lying. MXE, Clonazolam, MDPV (If you like stims), BK-MDMA.

One last tip with RC's is LOOK FOR PRODRUGS -- that means chemicals that metabolize into a "Classic" drug in your system. Rilmifazone(Sp) is one such example

(I would tell ppl what chemical to look for not physically give it to them -- just for the record)
 
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"God like euphoria", lol, honestly I don't think that's a state reliably induced by any drug, really, some are more reliably euphoric than others obviously but IMHO and IM(pretty extensive)Experience, even the most euphoric ones aren't inducing "godlike" states of euphoric bliss every single time, and especially so if you're planning to do them daily. Really these truly celestial euphoric states (again, just IMHO and IME) are not truly predictable but might sometimes occur unexpectedly on deep combo sessions, and to get the truly godlike aspect you really need to be mixing in a psychedelic or possibly a dissociative at the very least on top of your basic common-or-garden dumb hedonic euphoriant... none of this is sustainable 2 days back to back in the vast majority of cases.

So having clarified that I'll choose to answer a slightly broader question which is just what reasonably euphoric drug can you do before bed semi-regularly for a bit, well personally I'd say zolpidem is something you could maybe try, emphasis on try since it won't work for everyone if you're prone to doing slightly loopy shit at a certain level of "out of it", also it's very amnesia-inducing so you won't necessarily be able to remember all that much of the actual fun experience... once the dose gets heavy enough it's also gonna be pretty cognitively disabling so it's debatable how much you can even appreciate the blissed out zonked state of GABAergic stupidity while you're on it but, personally I have fond (if hazy) memories of taking 20-30mg of zolpidem and blissing out watching some TV shows that I will have absolutely nothing but the vaguest memory of the next day... and after a short time you will almost certainly just fall asleep so there's that.
 
^This is accurate

"Godlike euphoria" is not something that is readily accessible. I hear rumors of an MDMA like drug with sedative properties -- I guarantee everyday usage would not work though.

Chasing that is what has ppl takin 35 E's a day etc
 
Vastness said:
"God like euphoria", lol, honestly I don't think that's a state reliably induced by any drug, really, some are more reliably euphoric than others obviously but IMHO and IM(pretty extensive)Experience, even the most euphoric ones aren't inducing "godlike" states of euphoric bliss every single time, and especially so if you're planning to do them daily. Really these truly celestial euphoric states (again, just IMHO and IME) are not truly predictable but might sometimes occur unexpectedly on deep combo sessions, and to get the truly godlike aspect you really need to be mixing in a psychedelic or possibly a dissociative at the very least on top of your basic common-or-garden dumb hedonic euphoriant... none of this is sustainable 2 days back to back in the vast majority of cases.

So having clarified that I'll choose to answer a slightly broader question which is just what reasonably euphoric drug can you do before bed semi-regularly for a bit, well personally I'd say zolpidem is something you could maybe try, emphasis on try since it won't work for everyone if you're prone to doing slightly loopy shit at a certain level of "out of it", also it's very amnesia-inducing so you won't necessarily be able to remember all that much of the actual fun experience... once the dose gets heavy enough it's also gonna be pretty cognitively disabling so it's debatable how much you can even appreciate the blissed out zonked state of GABAergic stupidity while you're on it but, personally I have fond (if hazy) memories of taking 20-30mg of zolpidem and blissing out watching some TV shows that I will have absolutely nothing but the vaguest memory of the next day... and after a short time you will almost certainly just fall asleep so there's that.
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Damn thats the truest statement ive read regarding drugs, the elusive ”god-like” euphoria quickly fades and rarely shows itself again once it has gone. Like you said only drugs to consistently be able to provide that state would be a disso + psych combo
 
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