Im fortunate enough to live in Canada which means I have access to AC&C's from pharmacies. I bought a pack of 200 tablets, each with 8mg codeine, 15mg of caffeine, going to cold water extract out the aspirin so Im not worried about it. My question is what would be a nice recreational dose of these? Im looking for the highest amount of codeine I can take without the effects of the caffeine making me so jittery that I dont enjoy it. Ive done 50of them a few times before (400mg codeine) and it was decent but Im thinking of doing 100 (800mg codeine) tonight. Let me know what you guys think.
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A,C&C recreational dose
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BrokedownPalace
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Basic dosage questions belong in basic drug discussion, so I am going to move this over there for you. Just a couple things though. Codeine has a ceiling dose, meaning after a certain amount it won't get metabolized anymore so you'd basically be wasting it. For most people that would be around 400mg. So taking 800mg in a single dose won't necessarily double the effects of 400mg. Also, if you were to take 800mg, (100 of those pills) that would be 1500mg of caffeine which is a wicked crazy amount and I highly recommend not taking that much caffeine. Doing a CWE doesn't remove the caffeine, though if you have some more advanced knowledge you can remove the caffeine from the solution.
soundphaRm
Bluelighter
Personally I find that a nice recreational dose of codeine is around 300mg, but that's me (and my tolerance)...don't really know what your tolerance is. And that would just be a totally unacceptable amount of caffeine (and quite possibly very dangerous)!
So to really help you out we'd kind of need to know what your opiate tolerance is.
For me I also find that the effects of codeine after 300-360mg kind of peters out due to depletion of the hepatic isoenzyme CYP2D6. This is the enzyme responsible for converting codeine (a prodrug) into morphine (the main active metabolite). It is this conversion that gives codeine it analgesic (well not taking into account some codeine-6-glucuronide activity) and recreational properties.
So to really help you out we'd kind of need to know what your opiate tolerance is.
For me I also find that the effects of codeine after 300-360mg kind of peters out due to depletion of the hepatic isoenzyme CYP2D6. This is the enzyme responsible for converting codeine (a prodrug) into morphine (the main active metabolite). It is this conversion that gives codeine it analgesic (well not taking into account some codeine-6-glucuronide activity) and recreational properties.
soundphaRm
Bluelighter
^^...oop I think we were typing at the same time, Brokedown...well anyway there 'ya go!
sekio
Bluelight Crew
AC&C is not really viable, the caffeine ruins the effects.
I had no idea codeine had a ceiling dose, thanks for letting me know Brokedown!
I guess Ill just stick with my old dosage then since it seems I was right on the money where I was at before with 400mg.
AC&C's are nice at this dose even with the caffeine, I couldnt imagine adding more caffeine to the mix tho.
I guess Ill just stick with my old dosage then since it seems I was right on the money where I was at before with 400mg.
AC&C's are nice at this dose even with the caffeine, I couldnt imagine adding more caffeine to the mix tho.
Jackie Chan
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If you want to reduce the amount of caffeine, buy a box of mersyndol and use some of them with the pills that have caffeine. Mersyndol has doxylamine succinate instead of caffeine, it potentiates the codeine, but too much off it will make you really tired. Someone from bluelight suggested to me mixing the mersyndol with the tylenol/caffeine/codeine pills and it worked well. But I only take around 150mg of codeine in a single dose, so in the end product I'm getting approximately 25 -30mg of doxy with caffeine from the other pills. I don't know how larger doses of doxy might affect someone, especially taken with codeine so be careful.