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ResinBrain

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Hi all,
I've been reading this site and assilmilating
info about E. The thing is that we are 6-8
people who never tried it before and are
interested in doing so.

I was thinking about making a big bowl of punch.
At the beginning of the evening, it would consist
of fruit juice, with a little bit of vodka. This way,
people would get a relaxing effect from the alcohol
to aleviate the stress from taking a new substance.
After a while, tablets would be dissolved in the bowl
and my friends would have another drink :)

If everything goes well and we're having fun, some
cabs could bring us to a club where we could dance.


Does it sound like a viable plan? Any advice or
relevent input to add?
 
well, I forgot to ad that I'd be interested
in having a way to make every participant
taking a dose they feel comfortable with.

I was thinking about dissolving half in the bowl,
having a few glasses, and then the other half to
make the drink stronger in the end. (of course
not half a pill, but half the total dose which will be :
#participants+0.5*#participants) Hehe, not my fault
I like when things can be quantified.

And also, we're buying an ez-test beforehand.

thanks
 
i would suggest you all get at least 8 pills or at least 6... that way people can take a does they feel comfortable with.... disolveing it in the punch is a bad idea dont do it... if u cant get 8 pills then just get 4 and let everyone take half...

if the people arnt comfortable about taking it, then they dont have to/shouldnt. if they are just nervous give them time to think about it.. most likely they will see the effect it has on the others and really want to do it

be safe about it too, if u dont have a test kit, make sure u know your dealer or look into what your getting on pillreports
 
bah, I knew after I read myself that
I'd have that response, hence my
first reply :)

total number of pills = 1.5 * #participants

Just to be sure everyone gets what he wants.
If some is still left in the remaining punch, I
can't care less.
 
oh wait... nvm i reread lol so everyone will have about a pill and half to their self
 
e_asy :

why do you say dissolving it is a bad idea?
For me it seems that if we can drink it gradually
we'll get the effects in a smoother manner. I read
that in acidic solutions or in alcohol, mdma dissolves
well.
 
e_easy :

we are out of phase in our posts, that's funny!
bluelight is almost like a chatroom!

If we are 6, then we'll have 9 pills. 1.5 times
the number of ppl :)
 
i think you and the people you are gonna be rolling with should sit down... and talk about it. xtc is a great experience and one that you and your friends are gonna love sharing together, most of you will probibly continue to roll together after the first time. i would say no to desovling in the vodka/punch drink.. and just take the pill like a tylonol but thats me...
 
on another thing desolving your pill in your own glass of punch i think would be fine... the only reason im saying dont do it with the vodka is becasue its your first time... and do you want the effects of the pill to be clouded by ur stupified alcohol buzz...


ahh ok here it is this is what i wanted to show this is from a faq for mdma.

FAQ

E. Alcohol
Mixing MDMA with any depressant is dangerous. The increased stress placed on the cardiovascular system can lead to immediate medical problems. The dehydration and nausea that alcohol induces can accelerate the onset of hyperthermia or hyponatremia.

Also, consuming more drugs than you intend to is a particular concern when depressants are mixed with stimulants. The seemingly antagonistic effects that one drug has on the other can lead a user to consume far more than they otherwise would. This can be especially problematic because the drugs will often have different dose/response correlations and different response timetables.

On Erowid it says "Can cloud the desired effects of MDMA. Same danger as opiates, also can dangerously exacerbate the dehydration that MDMA normally causes. Not recommended."
 
1. Don't drink alcohol before your first ecstasy experience. The alcohol will only dull your senses and make the ecstasy effects less noticeable. Alcohol and ecstasy are also not a good combination because they both dehydrate you.

2. Don't dissolve the ecstasy in a big bowl of punch. You'd have to split ALL the punch evenly and drink it all down to distribute the ecstasy evenly. And if the ecstasy doesn't dissolve evenly in the punch, you won't know how much each person has actually taken. If it's everybody's first time and you're all a little apprehensive, just split your pills in half and take a half first. In about 30-60 minutes, you can each decide whether to take the other half or not depending on how you're feeling.

3. The plan to take a cab if you want to go out is a good one. Don't drive the first time you try ecstasy.

4. If you have any friends who have already done ecstasy, invite some of them to join you. They can answer questions and make you feel more at ease your first time rolling.

5. Your first few times rolling are always the best... so enjoy it! :)
 
thanks e_asy,

I take good note of your recommandation. Maybe that's
the way to go. In any case, we're really commited to this
and we'll discuss about how it will be administered. My
feeling is that if we go for swallowing the pills, we'll cut
them in half. One of us having a bad experience is not
an option. The girls of our group are about 110-130 pounds,
while the males (rofl) are 150-180.

It's written somewhere that the active dosage is not much
dependent on weigth, and on the other hand I've seen
reports that E hits the ladies harder.
 
that sounds like the right thing to do... split them and redose later... its also a good thing u guys have a limited amount of pills so you dont keep redosing, because believe me the urge will be there...

i hope u guys have a great night, and im sure it will be one to remember
 
Why not just take the pill by itself? Theres no real need to put it in the drink. If anything putting it in the drink could cause any of the following problems
1) People hog it
2) Not drinking it fast enough. In your effort to drink it slowly, you may lose the effect altogether. You only get so long out of pills... after taking one, taking more won't keep you as high... after 4-5 hours most people find the pills just keep them awake; you lose the love and much of the euphoria. It's not like alcohol in that you can keep drinking
3) It may not be as smooth. Drink too quickly and you'll find that the comeup is much much faster than if you just ate the pill; some people have panic attacks on pills because they believe the comeup is too fast and too overwhelming.

My personal opinion is just to eat the pills rather than worrying about the dissolving.
 
i advise against dissolving it in alcohol for the reasons already mentioned;

i would also advise to take a full pill if you can be reasonably sure about the quality;

given a slightly above average pill it will contain around 90mg of mdma; if you split that it brings you down to 45mg which is very close to the threshold dose;

i once took half of what i thought was an outstanding pill (had had a full one before) and barely felt anything; in my opinion the first time should be a mindblowing experience, not just an upset stomach and a slight feeling of wellbeing;

maybe settle for 3/4 of a pill?!
 
Man just give everyone a pill and chill out at your (or someone elses) house dim the lights,put on some trance(or whatever you like) and break out the glowsticks. I wouldnt advise 6 e-virgins to jump right into a club there first time rollin. Geta feel for the effects of the drug then go out to the club
 
Watch out for the e-virgin girl that will want to have sex with everyone. That's always good fun for that night and the morning after when she realises what she tried to do.
 
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