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A Bluelight Decade: Amsterdam 11th July 2009

When will it take place? (you can choose more than one)


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There should be a second alternative for those of us blrs who:
Might not be able to afford the trip.
Can't take the time off.

(It's two years off,so I'm not 100% on either one,but it would be nice to have a sub-meeting so no one gets left out)
 
it's been a years since the idea first started and over a year and a half till it happens. this thread has cycled through the lounge numerous times since it started here. you have had and still do have plenty of time to plan and finance this.
 
by screaming at the top of your lungs, with your dick in hand, while in your mom's basement?
 
Winding Vines said:
Yeah but make flights out/and around the US crazy ass expensive.

flights to euprope are crazy expensive in the summer regardless, i never noticed a huge hike in international flights around july 4th.
 
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copy of the poll before i edit it

Poll Results: Where should the Bluelight 10-Year Meetup be held?

Hamsterdamnation 207 52.27%
London 54 13.64%
Ibiza 40 10.10%
Prague 14 3.54%
Budapest 8 2.02%
India 10 2.53%
Thailand 25 6.31%
Mexico 38 9.60%
 
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I suggest late June or early July, because it won't let anyone vote in this poll. Well no one who voted on the location anyway.
 
glowbug said:
LOL, 6 months have elapsed since inception of the global meetup idea and the location STILL is being debated?

Yeah sure, like this is gonna take place alright. :D

I predict at least another 6 months of location post dithering, interspersed with several months here and there where the thread falls off the main page and folks forget about it.

My prediction: location is finalized in March 2008.

Then another 6-9 months will elapse before someone gets around to researching the best lodging available and posts the alternatives so BLers will at least be able to book non-randomly at several locations and be somewhat grouped together.

Prediction: lodging alternatives posted January 2009.

This will be followed by 3 months of a slew of "FUUUUUCK YEAH I'M DOWN LIKE A MUTHAFUCKIN GOOSE!" posts, followed a month thereafter by a roughly equivalent slew of "Things are lookin iffy but Ima try to make it" posts, then another 2-3 weeks of "Damn guys my fundage sucks, I'm out :(" posts.

Prediction: 19 BLers confirm trip reservations in May 2009. An additional 9 cancel at last minute when they realize their mates aren't going/someone they dislike IS going.

By any usual BL meetup standard though, Operation BL Pipe Dream has been a success.


If you folks are REALLY serious, has a committee been appointed to select a location/sort out the details?

I'd suggest appointing a committee of, like, 5 BLers. One of them would be selected to act as committee chair, responsible for coordinating all the information deadlines and committee decision e-powwows, browbeating the committee members to make sure they meet their information deadlines and then posting the decisions made for the BL community.

The other 4 each take one of the proposed meetup locations and research what events are going on during that time and what accomodations are most convenient/affordable. The 4 then present their research findings and the committee votes on the 4 alternatives, with potential sites being eliminated until a clear majority favorite is reached.

Alternatively, the committee could vote on the site at the outset, then divvy up the research responsibilities among the 4 after selection. This would result in less research work for the committee members, but the downside is the decision is made without the benefit of all of the best available information.

Once the site is selected, the committee members then divvy up research responsibilities for preparing a very general outline of events and transportation/food/lodging options at the site itself, so the BLers planning to come will not be hitting the ground completely clueless and will have a rough guide to use in coordinating with other BLers attending.

There are a fuckton of logistical considerations that ought to be covered...for instance:

1) Where is the nearest US (and other) diplomatic office in case of emergency or arrest?

2) Where can money exchange sites be located?

3) Will your cellphone be usable at the location? Maybe, maybe not. What is best SIM card deal there? Is your charger compatible with local outlets?

4) 30+ BLers arriving without supplies (travelling internationally with supplies is sheer idiocy) will need supply lines that *hopefully* minimize shadiness...are there any local BLers knowledgeable as to reliable supply liaisons?

5) What is best available local transit for large groups?


A good carrot on the stick for these committee members doing a solid planning job would be for all those attending to pitch in and cover, say, one night's lodging at $100 per diem, for each of them. This in turn would also (hopefully) obligate the committee to take their jobs seriously. If 50 BLers ended up attending, that would amount to an additional $10 expenditure for each of them...well worth it imo if many of the trip logistics have been smoothed out for them in advance.

Another thought is this...you could arrange lodging locations sort of like BL Olympic villages, with each major group (US, Europe, Aus/Asia) having its own village lodging area near each other. You could even have each village sponsor a different night of activities, serving as "host" for those activities with an emphasis on BLer flavor from that group. BLers are going to congregate most with those from their own places of origin, at least initially, so why not use that fact to the advantage of the event?

There's also a practical reason for this...centralizing 40+ BLers in one location tends to draw heightened attention to the group, as the larger the group, the greater the tendency to act carelessly because of the mob mindset. A little bit of decentralization would offset the conspicuousness. Of course, none of this applies if you have it, say, in Ibiza.

If you wanted to get really ambitious, you could print out t-shirts with something like "BL Internationale June 2009" (or more appropriately "BL Special Olympics", imo) with some kind of symbol from each major group, similar to the Olympic rings.

But that's probably a bit too ambitious when you get right down to it...I've been known to engage in overly ambitious ideas for meetups that ultimately never came to fruition a time or two in the past.

All these musings are largely academic on my part because I'm getting too old for this stuff and in all likelihood wouldn't be in attendance, but the "If you build it, they will come" adage applies here. People are much more likely to take an idea seriously and invest in it if they have a concrete plan placed before them, plus they're also that much more likely to come if some of the logistical hurdles are already smoothed out for them.

Imo you'd almost certainly have a better turnout that way...without a concrete plan, it pretty much stays in the pipe dream category.

Quoted for re-consideration/discussion. I personally think that there are some great points in this post. Have any of these steps been taken? Would the formation of the committee be a "be the change you seek" deal or would we vote on a committee? Thoughts Ideas?
 
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Its definitely a good idea for people to chip in an extra 10-20$ to go towards a bunch of people formally organizing it. Someone also talked about having it when tourist season isn't as crazy, July and Aug seem to be the preferred heavy traffic months. In the Fall or June get my vote.

It'd be nice to have people that have gone in the past contribute as well.
 
I am definitely in agreeance that there should be some sort of group put together to smooth out all the details like hotels/supplies/food/money exchange and whatever else is necessary. Also a local BL'er to wherever we decide to stay would be extremely helpful in setting all that up. the post by glowbug is right, there definitely needs to be a plan in place before the set date. I doubt anyone will be able to attend if its going to be a "shoot from the hip" international meetup.
 
I say either mid august or early to mid September. For the US folks it is past peak season for traveling and will be significantly less expensive. I dont know what season is in Amsterdam though, so if someone could enlighten us US folks that would be great.

Also some one mentioned flying into London and then taking a train to Amsterdam, does this really help as far as expenses?

Thanks for the suggestions.


Also as far as housing, anyone recommend hostels that would be able to work with BL on a larger booking and relatively private and tolerable?
 
This is fucked up. It says I've already voted, is showing the poll and is telling me that I chose Beginning of June which is not the date I chose. And it's also saying that no one has voted for beginning of June.

We are at the forefront of forum research here people, this is a very exciting time. Remember where you are and where you want to go. Yes.
 
DonkeyPunch said:
I am definitely in agreeance that there should be some sort of group put together to smooth out all the details like hotels/supplies/food/money exchange and whatever else is necessary. Also a local BL'er to wherever we decide to stay would be extremely helpful in setting all that up. the post by glowbug is right, there definitely needs to be a plan in place before the set date. I doubt anyone will be able to attend if its going to be a "shoot from the hip" international meetup.
I think we should get together a few Dutchmen, since they have all the local knowledge as you mentioned. For everyone's information, I'm Dutch and live 40km from Amsterdam, so I can help out with any information. Let me know if there's anything I can do.

Anyway, I will have some spare room for one or two people, so they can crash at my placed. You're from my place to the Dam, or back in no time with public transport. But we'll see around that time.
 
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