So you're saying that someone caused a problem there by destabilizing it. Then if it was caused by going there and putting it into this state... Doesn't it seem logical that you could fix it in the same manner? Why should EU provide literal LAND and massive influxes of middle easterners and africans when you can just use resources correctly to help them there.
But no no. It only works to cause problems from far away. To fix them you have to put the golden spoon in their mouth, be as PC as possible, and baby the fuck out of all these 'refugees'.
I am not against fixing the problem, but the problem is not fixed right now. Right now, there are hundreds of thousands of people who are displaced and in danger as a direct result of military interventions which the UK participated in. This means that the UK has a moral responsibility to help the people in need of help, until they fix the problem. They caused the mess, responsibility means bearing some of the cost.
The statement of starving and cholera etc is just annoying to be frank. Does starvation come raining down from the sky? Is it forcibly brought onto these people? No. If they stopped and looked around and started building from the minute they left the 'war-zones or other dangers!' Then they could actually build something for themselves.
If that's too much to ask. Once again what in the fuck is the problem with having a due process?
"These people" were not starving until they were forced to run from their homes because of Western military intervention and the consequent uprising of extremist ideology. Is your argument really that they should build impromptu farms on the run, or in refugee camps? Even if that were possible, it would be months until they had any food, what is supposed to sustain them in the mean time? You really haven't thought this through, because it is a ridiculous notion.
The idea that they should somehow be synthesising their own medicines whilst on the run from conflict zones, or whilst settled in overpopulated and unhygienic refugee camps is even more ridiculous.
There is a due process, these people are entitled to claim asylum. If they are genuine refugees (which the overwhelming majority clearly are) then they are legally entitled to asylum, if they are not then a country has the right to deport them.
It is baffling to me that you are the same person who is arguing in P&S that all humans are equal, but here you are blaming refugees for their plight. Talk about cognitive dissonance!
You and all the other ultra sympathizers have still not responded to the question of WHY EUROPE is obligated yet no other continent is. Was russia not a destabilizer during the cold war? What about the conflicts between pakistan and india? China during it's communist expansion? Do these problems stem as far back as WWII as well? Fuck it why not just go back to the crusades.
Get over it. Those who started this shit show aren't even in office anymore. (If you are speaking about outside nations destabilizing)
I never said Europe should bear all of the responsibility, other countries should do more as well. The fact is, refugees have a right to seek asylum where they choose, Europe just happens to be convenient geographically for those who are in the Middle East and Africa, just as Australia is convenient for those in South East Asia and North America is convenient for those in Central America.
As I addressed in my last post, states are responsible for the actions of their elected officials. As soon as a politicians term is over you don't just get to throw your hands up and say it is no longer our fault, you elected these people. You seem to fundamentally misunderstand how international obligations work. States are collective entities, you are collectively responsible for the decisions that are made in the name of your state, whether you personally agreed with them or not.
Maybe you need to take a look at the culture itself in the middle east. It's piss poor and it's going to stay that way as long as people use religion as a justification for their ideologies.
You might consider why the Middle East is in the state that it is today. Here is a hint, it has an awful lot to do with exploitation by the West. If you want to deride any regions culture for being "piss poor", you might consider directing it at those places who think it is perfectly fine to spend money on bombs to drop on the Middle East, but totally unacceptable to spend any money housing the people who were negatively impacted by those bombs.