7% of California Drivers Test Positive for Marijuana, but Are They Impaired?

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For the 20 states in which marijuana is legal, either for medicinal or recreational purposes, there’s a new challenge for law enforcement: judging whether stoned users are too impaired to drive.

On any given Friday and Saturday night in California, 7% of drivers on the road test positive for marijuana, according to the state’s first comprehensive roadside survey of alcohol and drug use while driving, conducted by the Pacific Institute for Research and Evaluation for the state’s highway department. That percentage is similar to the proportion of drivers who recorded some alcohol (not necessarily exceeding the legal limit for driving under the influence) in their blood.

While the survey does not address whether the positive tests resulted in impaired driving — more than 1,300 drivers were randomly pulled over and asked if they would participate in the study without any legal consequences resulting from the alcohol and drug testing — the study may help law enforcement officials to better understand how legalizing marijuana will impact driving decisions. Eighteen states, including California, currently allow marijuana for medical use, and Colorado and Washington became the first states to legalize recreational use — potentially creating a larger pool of stoned drivers.

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The question of whether the people who test positive for marijuana are actually affected by the drug at the time they are driving, however, remains difficult to answer. The study used a cutoff level of 2 nanograms per milliliter of saliva of THC, the main psychoactive ingredient in marijuana. Driving within three hours of smoking pot is associated with a near doubling of the risk of fatal crashes. However, THC can remain in blood and saliva for highly variable times after the last use of the drug. Although the marijuana “high” only lasts three to five hours, studies of heavy users in a locked hospital ward showed THC can be detected in the blood up to a week after they are abstinent, and the outer limit of detection time in saliva tests is not known. While marijuana does not promote uninhibited and potentially reckless behavior like alcohol does, THC does have mild hallocinogenic and sedative effects, and studies show it can impair cognition and memory, making driving potentially more hazardous.

Read more: http://healthland.time.com/2012/11/...arijuana-but-are-they-impaired/#ixzz2D3vIWxMd
 
^ I was thinking the same thing.
I would be trying to recover from that heart attack while participating in the study, if I agreed.


But I do think that the question of how to tell if someone is too impaired to drive is a good one.
Can't we apply some standards to people's reaction times or other behaviors, regardless of the drugs that might be in their systems?
 
There are sobriety checks set for this weekend in so Cali and they are WEED sobriety check points.
 
Do we even know the statistics on driving accidents where pot use is involved? Law enforcement should not be assuming it's the same impairment as alcohol.

IME pot users seem to pay more attention to their driving to a neurotic degree.
 
This is what concerns me about the whole marijuana legalization issue....Up to now, it was unheard of for someone to get charged with "Driving under the influence of marijuana"...Maybe now, since it's become harder to charge people with posession, this is gonna be the new thing they use to fuck with people!
 
I suppose that is part of why they are getting serious about DUI checkpoints for weed. Research on driving high is way lagging compared to all the research, tests, and experiments drunk driving has undergone.

Drug Enforcement Agencies that are anti-cannabis will launch a new anti-cannabis campaign behind it, I'm sure.

I just don't see how it is worth the risk to drive when I have altered my perception. If I crash, my insurance won't pay if I'm sited for DUI. I could not pass a background check if I had a DUI and with the extremely high unemployment rate, more and more schools and businesses run background checks on applicants. If I had a DUI, my jobless ass would NEVER find work.

It's just that mainstream society seems so dead set against marijuana that I hate for marijuana users to give the mainstream any ammunition to throw at people who smoke weed.

I think driving while on allergy meds is much worse and far more dangerous than driving after smoking a bowl. But I could get pulled over, and the officer might even see it in my purse while I fetch my ID. Do you think that officer would even notice?

If the same thing happened but I was high, the officer would certainly notice... the downside of smoking weed is that the smell is such a dead give away. If he or she saw a pipe in my purse as I handed out my ID, I would be totally fucked.

I used to drive high when I had to go on long road trips by myself. The problem with that was weed slows time down for me personally. A 6 hour drive felt like 22 hours on the road. I hated that!

If everyone who uses cannabis would be vigilant about sober driving, the bastards against it wouldn't have a case.
 
The war on drugs, emplys a LOT of people! Legalization is a threat to their livliehood! So, of course, they're gonna dream up ways to jam people and call it a "public safety issue"!
Pathetic!
 
The war on drugs, emplys a LOT of people! Legalization is a threat to their livliehood! So, of course, they're gonna dream up ways to jam people and call it a "public safety issue"!
Pathetic!

This is true, and people need to still be employed in LEO, but the priorities should shift from weed to coke, heroin, and guns.
 
I just don't see how it is worth the risk to drive when I have altered my perception.
I agree with you - but unfortunately, this issue is distinct from that one, since people who smoked weed a week beforehand may test positive and be charged with a DUI.

I think driving while on allergy meds is much worse and far more dangerous than driving after smoking a bowl.
Basically, I agree here, too, but it depends what kind of allergy meds and how much, etc. On Claratin, I don't get drowsy, so driving is very safe. On a triple-dose of Benadryl, nobody would be safe to drive.
 
Basically, I agree here, too, but it depends what kind of allergy meds and how much, etc. On Claratin, I don't get drowsy, so driving is very safe. On a triple-dose of Benadryl, nobody would be safe to drive.

Right, so impairment from weed is dose and strain dependent too. Generally speaking neither impairs you as alcohol does. But taken in high enough quantities, even coffee can increase your chances of being involved in an accident.

Any tests involving marijuana (or other drugs for that matter) should test a suspect's impairment. Not concentration of TCH, DPH, etc in blood or saliva.
 
Driving is a multitask activity that can be affected by tons of things.

Once a huge wasp flew into the car and I almost killed us all.

Occasionally I've been crying, going to a funeral or coming back from a funeral or from the hospital after the death but before the funeral. I can't drive for shit if I"m crying.

I think millions of us daydream when we are driving. That's worse than being high, if my mind is off in la la land grooving to a song and I'm thinking about dinner and an argument I heard behind me in line at the store and a thousand other things.

Being a sober driver isn't the same thing as being a safe driver. I wish cops started pulling people over for driving like jackasses. Southern Cali freeways are packed ALL the TIME, and I swear sometimes I think everyone out there is on something except for me!

And they are ALL on their phones. Texting while driving 75 miles an hour on the freeway with cars going about that speed inches away from you on all sides is suicidal. It's illegal but who the fuck cares? I look around and see like 70 percent of the drivers around me trying to watch the road but mostly looking down. Texting is like having a newspaper fully open across your steering wheel and you are reading it while you are suppose to NOT be killing other motorists.

Driving is dangerous by it's very nature. The drugs we take, the calls we make, the blow jobs given or received, ALL make drivers much more likely to have an accident than a smoked bowl of cannabis!!!!
 
This is true, and people need to still be employed in LEO, but the priorities should shift from weed to coke, heroin, and guns.

guns are legal in this country yet there are still a lot of illegal weapons i assume the same will be true for marijuana and enforcement issues even where it is legal
also i dont smoke much but when i do i really do think it impairs my ability to properly drive a vehicle while i am High more so than a couple drinks would
 
Driving is dangerous by it's very nature. The drugs we take, the calls we make, the blow jobs given or received, ALL make drivers much more likely to have an accident than a smoked bowl of cannabis!!!!

I don't know... Giving a blow job while driving seems pretty dangerous...
 
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