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600 micrograms and no visuals..

DexysMidnightRuner said:
6 grams really isnt that much. like i said and is clearly evident, i'm not that sensitive to psychedelics so eating an 8th is nothing. i like intense drug experiences.

and i took some LSD and Boomers on the 4th of july and i thought they went together pretty nicely. i guess to each his own. but i'm definitely going to eat more then an 8th.




and the intent of this post wasnt really about what you were seeing. plus you didnt do a very good job describing it to me so i didnt have much to go on. all i did was quote how you tried to explain it at one point. haha poorly i agree but what ever, i think everyone got the point.



i'm just going to come to the conclusion that i'm not that sensitive to psychedelics and i might never really get the experience i'm looking for but i shouldnt go into a trip with expectations any way. who knows, maybe i'll find my nitch sometime soon and have an amazing spiritual experience. i cant force it. its just rather disappointing that i only get fractals for an hour or two off that much LSD.
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Try a more visual psychedelic before reaching any conclusions. DMT, 2c-e, 2c-p, 25c-nbome, and 5-meo-mipt are all options IMO.
 
"6 grams really isnt that much"???

You must either be Dicksizing, or talking about fresh not dried shrooms, Dexys.

6 grams of standard potency dried cubensis would send 98% of your typical users, to quote Huxely, "for a dark eternity on the Moon."

No goddamned way thats a minor or mild trip even for grand and glorious you... you are clearly bullshitting us, but oh well, have fun bragging, but you're not fooling anyone, dude.
 
DwayneHoover said:
"6 grams really isnt that much"???

You must either be Dicksizing, or talking about fresh not dried shrooms, Dexys.

6 grams of standard potency dried cubensis would send 98% of your typical users, to quote Huxely, "for a dark eternity on the Moon."

No goddamned way thats a minor or mild trip even for grand and glorious you... you are clearly bullshitting us, but oh well, have fun bragging, but you're not fooling anyone, dude.
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I have eaten over an ounce of shrooms before but they were wet and they were liberty caps. The potency of shrooms can vary a lot depending on a lot of factors.
 
ranunky said:
I have eaten over an ounce of shrooms before but they were wet and they were liberty caps. The potency of shrooms can vary a lot depending on a lot of factors.
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Yes, they were wet, therefor, irrelevant. Wet shrooms are about 10% potent by weight as dried shrooms.
 
ranunky said:
I have eaten over an ounce of shrooms before but they were wet and they were liberty caps. The potency of shrooms can vary a lot depending on a lot of factors.
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Yes, an oz of fresh mushrooms would equate to about 2.8g. Liberty caps are quite potent and I would think that a fresh oz would be roughly equivelant to 4g of average dry cubensis.

To say that 6g is anything less than a high dose is ridiculous unless they are extremely poor quality.
 
DwayneHoover said:
"6 grams really isnt that much"???

You must either be Dicksizing, or talking about fresh not dried shrooms, Dexys.

6 grams of standard potency dried cubensis would send 98% of your typical users, to quote Huxely, "for a dark eternity on the Moon."

No goddamned way thats a minor or mild trip even for grand and glorious you... you are clearly bullshitting us, but oh well, have fun bragging, but you're not fooling anyone, dude.
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It's not that unbelievable. 6 grams of half decent shrooms would do exactly as you say, but shrooms aren't always that potent. I've eaten an eighth of low potency shrooms and just felt kinda stoned. I imagine 6 grams of those wouldn't have blown my mind away. Some shrooms just aren't that good.
 
Back on subject,

I have tripped a fair amount and I barely get visuals at all. In fact, I get lots of auditory distortion/hallucination/enhancement. I hear elaborate music in my head that directly reflects my state of mind. I figure it's like visuals, but for an aurally-oriented person like me (musician).

But yeah, tripping for me is much less about the eye candy and much more about the insight.
 
killermunchies said:
Just curious, how do you know what the OP took? And also, has anyone here actually weighed acid accurately and then tripped? People love throwing microgram measurements around, but I've yet to meet anyone who actually has the capability to measure them.
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Exactly. You dissolve the LSD into a solvent, mix it around, and then have your sheet tightly wound in something like aluminum foil. You pour the liquid, let it dry some, pour some more solvent on it so it distributes a little more evenly, let it dry, and that's that.

It's always the same people that claim to know exactly how strong the doses are generally are the same people that go around claiming "oh, this is double dipped!" or "oh, this is this print, so you know it's great!" as if it's really that difficult to get blottter.

I've always taken the mcg claims with a grain of salt. You're always going to be off by some, and a lot of it is marketting. The SAME batches of LSD were laid with the SAME amount, just on different paper in the mid 90's... yet people would be like "oh, this print is better than the other"... it's placebo.

Not to mention, there are people who don't know how to lay the crystal rigt and end up with uneven sheets.

And I used to be only a few steps down the ladder from the two Americans with the silo. I don't know if people do things differently now, but that's how it was in the 90's and from what I've heard from users today, it sounds as if there is no difference. The crystal is absolutely no different, that's for sure.

I assure you, when you are talking about something as small as micrograms, the people ESTIMATE. Because the manufacturers don't dose the paper themselves, they sell the crystal. Which eventually makes it's way to someone with paper and it's never going to be entirely uniform.

Just because someone think their dealer is the shit doesn't make it fact. I'm not trying to say that strong tabs don't exist. They very much do. But as far as knowing exactly how much acid is on a tab or microdot, it's basically like a giant game a telephone that likely spans several countries, lots of people, and is beneficial to lie about. If anyone here has taken a confirmed dose of acid, I'd like to hear how street tabs usually compare dose-wise.
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Ditto.
 
Love In Vein said:
The SAME batches of LSD were laid with the SAME amount, just on different paper in the mid 90's... yet people would be like "oh, this print is better than the other"... it's placebo.
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Not that it isn't probable and likely, but I doubt the veracity of this "experiment" which people here keep repeating ad nauseum.

That was IMO just a tall tale told by Owsley probably to prove a point. He was a well known raconteur and storyteller. I doubt it actually happened. Just heresay originating from one person's mouth, nothing more. I wish people would quit quoting it as if it were some highly documented peer reviewed published research study. Its just a story told by one guy who was known to be prone to exaggeration and hyperbole. In other words, meaningless drivel that probably never actually happened.

Sorry... had to get that off my chest. Back on topic, whatever the hell that was.
 
^^

Owsley wasn't making acid in the mid-90's Dwayne so I'm not sure why you think that was Owsley.

The owsley story you're confusing it with is back in 1966 he added different coloured food dye to the blotter paper and then laid the same acid on the different sheets. Then reports started coming in that the green acid was righteously mellow, the yellow was a bummer and the red was introspective. I think a few people who were involved with him and said this happened - it's certainly possible. I doubt he'd make up a story like that because it cuts off his market - if you can create a myth that the "green acid is different to the red acid" then you sell twice as much.

You only have to look at the claims that different strains of cubensis give different trips to see how gullible people are. A lot of growshops in Holland pick the mushrooms at different stages of growth and sell them as different strains just to create a market. It's complete horseshit.
 
^ owsley made pills, not blotter. but that's neither here nor there. ;)

OP, were you on any medication when you ate this dose?
antipsychotics, narcotics or anything like that?

and when did you trip previously to this? if it was less than 3 or 4 days, that can have adverse effects on the trip, as the (cross) tolerance can be quite intense.
 
Pills of acid? Are you sure about that space? Never heard of acid pills before.

As far I know he made liquid - the Beatles smuggled several pints of it back when they sent a film crew out to film the Monterey festival.
 
pretty sure.
i think he talks about it here (but i dont have time to listen to the whole thing) -

http://entheogenesisaustralis.podomatic.com/entry/2011-03-22T03_20_23-07_00

also, there is mention of it here:

http://deadnews.blogspot.com/2005/08/where-are-they-now-stanley-bear-owsley.html

"Owsley soon hooked up with Tim Skully and together they continued to produce LSD as well as STP (DOM). Their product, known by a variety of names, including "Owsley Acid" and "Orange Sunshine" was produced in large batches and either pressed into tablets or encapsulated."
 
DwayneHoover said:
Not that it isn't probable and likely, but I doubt the veracity of this "experiment" which people here keep repeating ad nauseum.

That was IMO just a tall tale told by Owsley probably to prove a point. He was a well known raconteur and storyteller. I doubt it actually happened. Just heresay originating from one person's mouth, nothing more. I wish people would quit quoting it as if it were some highly documented peer reviewed published research study. Its just a story told by one guy who was known to be prone to exaggeration and hyperbole. In other words, meaningless drivel that probably never actually happened.
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What are you talking about? I wasn't quoting anyone nor had I known anything about an experiment like this being applied to LSD.

I was speaking from eh... second hand experience.

Believe me, you can put the same exact material at the same doses and if it's in a different pill, bag, capsule color,blotter design, et cetera, people will say "oh, this batch was better/worse" than the previous one when it was EXACTLY the same thing just packaged differently.

Some people are REALLY susceptible to the power of placebo.
 
yourtman said:
those dots are made with very special crystal - I've eaten them, the little red stars? :)

They are very strong and clean, will refresh ya and align ya with God.

Dunno, maybe ssris or tolerance, or wrong intents.

<3<3
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That's my guess, it happens all to often people cant let go well enough to truly have the experience. I also know of the stars and dots mind you and sounds like you had an experience with the blue ones. Which are amazing one had me visualizing like crazy. You either don't respect it so it does not respect you, or you have been taking way too much this year and you are broken. Could possibly be that you don't take care of your body very well and the chemicals in your brain are low low low. So many factors to take into account, you seem generally uneducated for being so well connected. You should have more respect for it others would kill to be in your position.
 
Also Case of course different crystals have different qualities its the reason things get more visual as you move up the crystal ladder and less confusing. Take this for instance Silver which is normally around 80% pure, if a hit was ug'ed at 100 exactly it would only be truly 80 Ug and 20 Ug of isomers and offshoots of chemical synthesis. There is no way to tell that these cause any true effects, but I tend to notice that anything silver and over has less confusion, more complete visual effects, better euphoria, and less tension. As for different types of trips caused by the crystal, I believe that it stores intention, energy, and love during its life. Being exposed to positive energy and intentions aka love, gives it more of a personality imho. That could just all be made up bs but that is what I feel from it. As when I was a noob and still dealing with shady people with the wrong intention who sometimes get ahold of it etc those were the only times I had bad trips.
 
acid (like many tryptamines) are something you have to "let go" to get the most out of it. i love the acid visuals more than any other, but the more external stimulation i have, the less visuals i have.

i usually only take 1 hit and enter meditative states on it. this way, my 1 hit is about as strong as a +3 can get. the moment i begin stimulating myself externally, the visuals fade.

psychedelic pheneths are far more visual. but tryps usually require going inward to let your 3rd eye candy become your actual eyesight. though, on that note, very very high doses of mushrooms are the most visual psychedelic experiences ive come to know.

all in all, im not ever aiming to get visuals, thats not really what tripping is all about to me. on that, i tend to get a lot of visuals relative to most ppl i know.
 
funkmaster said:
Take this for instance Silver which is normally around 80% pure.
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Doesn't sound very likely funkmaster, I'm not sure how you get "80% pure LSD" in the first place to be honest - the idea of "80% pure" comes from something like heroin or cocaine where you can cut the cocaine with something else down the line. You can't cut LSD in the same way. It's usually on blotter fairly early in the process - once it's on the blotter you can't "cut" it. When you're making LSD it's either going to be LSD or it isn't.

20 Ug of isomers and offshoots of chemical synthesis

Are any of these active tho? At the same dose as LSD?

That could just all be made up

Not made up exactly, it's just that LSD has a vast range of effects all by itself and varies wildly depending on your mood and your surroundings. If I gave you the "purest" LSD that's ever been made and then made you take it in a room full of shitten underpants, you'd have a "dirty" trip. If I gave you "impure" LSD and gave it to you beside a waterfall in Yellowstone National Park you'd have a clean trip.
 
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