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So just out of curiosity, does 6-apdb ever end? I've been on it since 8 o clock pm last night. and it's now 3:41pm the next day.
My girlfriend and i went to go and see the Noah Movie, which really kicked ass by the way. My movie pitch for it goes as such.
Hey Kids, it's not too often i would ever suggest to anyone to go and see a movie with Biblical intent. But for some reason i was drawn to Darren Aronofsky's Noah. This is the same director of Requiem for a Dream, and The Fountain. So i already knew his take on a biblical story that was only 8 pages long, where the main character died on the 5th page, was going to be sheer maddness. Holy Shit was it ever.
I can see why this movie royally pissed off the Religious Rites and it's been banned in many Religious countries. This movie pushes the fucking envelope.
It's an Pro Vegan, Environmentalist, Futuristic, Philosophical Road Warrior. With Ayahuasca and Aliens and radiation. Yes thats right Noah. The Bible Story.

Don't take my word for it, just go and see it. Preferably on something with a bit of substance. It blew my mind to whole new levels of consciousness.

We took an 80mg paper ball 1 hour and 30 minutes before the movie.
Then another 60mg ball about 1 hour into the movie. I gotta say, i really enjoy this compound. I just did not expect it to manifest itself into a several day ordeal. There has also been No Redosing. I have drank a fair bit of coffee, but i wouldn't think so little caffine would induce such an astonishingly prolonged effect as what my girlfriend and i are experiencing. I'm having relatively complex yet subtle hallucinations.
Easier to free form philosophical thought.

Yes i got it from an EXTREMELY trusted source, but seriously. I've eaten, drank, shit three times, took a shower, checked my scale for accuracy.
140mg is literally the maximum amount we could have taken.

Is this stuff really that powerful? is it called Benzo Fury, because you actually need Benzos, to shut off the serotonin duct or what?
 
That is an uncharacteristically long duration, I believe 6-APDB is supposed to run as long as the other APBs, if not a bit longer. Perhaps what you're experiencing is an afterglow?
And no, it's called benzo fury because of the benzofuran structure of the compound.
 
My pupils are still fully dialated all the way to the absolute brim of the color of my eye.
I have no teeth clench. I feel really good, no weird body effects like shivers or vasoconstriction.
I don't think this was cut with anything. I also havn't touched any kind of Stimulant since August.
Plus it's been a hellishly long winter here, so i am just wondering if i was more depressed due to lack of sunlight than originally thought.
Now i'm kind of operating within this pseudo-Stimmy ++.5 realm of weirdness.
*plays the song "don't worry, be happy"*

I've got sunlight beaming for miles out of every hole in my body. to sum it up. Celeste just went to go and have her 2nd shower.
Water feels nice, i just kinda wanted to do a little community out reach to see what other people think about these effects and or if anyone has experienced anything like this.
 
i've done AMT lots of times before in the past. This isn't as mashy as AMT. Also good luck trying to get me to sit still for 2hours in a movie theatre during the pinnacle of an AMT trip.
i'd wanna be out in the woods. tryptamines do not keep me indoors they loathe roofs.

Phenethylamines and stimulants on the other hand. Are commonly kept indoors i feel.

I am more or less just having mild telepathic moments between my girlfriend and i. When i blink rapidly, i get a culmination of what are sort of pseudo jagged rainbow after images.
during the movie there was as i said above strong free flowing philosophical associations. I honestly thought that this was going to be more like a cheap mda high,
Not like an Mescaline//Mdma Buzz.
 
Is this stuff really that powerful? is it called Benzo Fury, because you actually need Benzos, to shut off the serotonin duct or what?
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Lol this had me dying, seriously though what your experiencing is very atypical for any APB. While I haven't tried 6-APDB I've done quite a bit of research on it as the psychedelic aspect intrigued me and like e's says the drug should've died down by now. The only thing you can really do is wait it out, it's times like these that it helps to have some etizolam around... You know, to put out the fury and all. I won't even take an empathogen without at least some alprazolam on hand because I hate being overstimulated and I hate loosing sleep. Is your GF still awake as well? If so you probably got an adulterated batch (or perhaps even a mislabeled batch, it happens), you can never put it past anybody really. As for long acting stimulant RC's that could be a possibility I'm out of the loop, I hate stims... Isn't MPA long lasting? Btw benzo fury is supposed to be 6-APB but those pellets usually turned out to be a cocktail of stims, did you purchase your 6-apdb under the brand name "benzo fury"?
 
Nope i actually got it as a free sample when i ordered several grams of bk-2c-b. it came labeled as 6-apdb. From a Bonzai tree if you know what i am saying.
I've been really good without stimulants lately and didn't exactly want to touch an amphetamine. originally i was going to take bk-2c-b for the movie, but i read about the long come up, and possible over stimulation during the peak.
So i looked into this one did all the research i needed for a supposed non neurotoxic mda analogue.
I had knocked the whole "benzo fury" crowd when it first kicked into high gear a year ago or whatever, because... to me it just seemed like another cheap stimulant flooding the market.
I had quite a niche in my nasal cavities going for bk-mdma at that time. Which thankfully has been put to rest for over at least a year now.

I don't normally have ever needed to take any kind of benzo or anything like that. I'm also not staying that i am over stimulated or anything, it's just.
My head, is so remarkably clear, this cannot be healthy. But it feels totally healthy. Oddly pervasive and long lasting euphoria, one of the cleanest i've ever experienced.

Yes my girlfriend is still tripping as well. But she has a bit more CNS stimulation that i do, occasional chills, mild bruxism.
Best thing about this compound is i do NOT feel the need to redose to be comfortable. I'm just righteously nailed to the celing and loving it.

I guess the moral of the story here is, don't knock something until you try it.
But also, just because you've tried it, and it feels great, doesn't mean you should turn it into a habit.
But with this one, i think i'll do everything in my power to keep it's magic around.
MDMA's died a long time ago.
 
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Well I guess if your still feeling good it's not all bad *shrugs*. While you may not feel overstimulated you two still haven't gotten any sleep after such a long period of time, far longer than you should be. I don't use UK vendors since I'm in the states but I could've swore that BB (hope this doesn't count as sourcing as BB can mean anything really) has sold bunk benzo fury pellets but that's something that need citation if ya catch my drift.... I'm also not sure if that applied to their powder as well. I agree that the APB's are pretty extraordinary and quite surprising that something so powerfull is legal but you typically don't hear of them going past the 10hr mark and that's being generous... 5-apb lasts like 5 hours and 6-apb lasts like 7 tops, for me at least but like I said I've never touched APDB. Since were on ths subject, did you find 6-apdb psychedelic? Any visual distortions? Btw it's still always a good idea to have some etiz around, especially with it being dirt cheap... it could also bring you out of any bad trips.

Ps. Magnesium does wonders for bruxism if you have any of that lying around.
 
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Oh yeah, it's a psychedelic alright. it's not a tryptamine sort of hallucination.
it's not a phenethylamine sort of hallucination either. It's honestly like Low dose mescaline in terms of visuals but once again without the same headspace. Like for example, i was sitting on the couch, i paused before going to take a toke out of the bong. I noticed the room was pretty animated at that particular angle . so i set the bong down and tried to examine it from a different angle. but a point in my conciousness lapsed making me lose the hallucination. It's not like the air is alive like with 4-aco-dmt where oceans of color waves are occupied with tiny patterns. This is more like the air is filled with tiny particles of life. If i blink really quickly. I can manifest all of these "sparkles" into a much larger picture but it's more like an after image or an out of place dimension. Frame rate is extremely off in television shows and movies it seems. Or stuff that isn't fluid in reality just kind of has a mild studdering effect everything digitized. which i wouldn't call eye wiggling. There was ALOT of eye wiggling at the beginning. But this is many hours passed the beginning.
Music makes shades of color in the room change. So there is a mild synesthesia.

But thats not even beginning to mention how malleable your mind is for manifesting philosophical and psychedelic thought. Like 2c-b i find hit's this level of almost retarded euphoria where all you can do is "have fun"
There is no room for manifesting something deeper. MDA for me has been known to produce profound visions that have rivaled some of my strongest mushroom trips. Just without the same kind of emotional connotation to the images.
So all of this makes sense. But this duration MY GOD.

I'm going to wait like a month and sample this again. If i get the same effects, than either this is a batch tainted with angel tears, or i dunno.
I'll let my headache determine the outcome ultimately when i can finally get some comfortable rest.

You guys can tell me if i have stopped making sense. But i think everything i am explaining has been explained pretty well for two people putting their heads together on this end using one mans hands to forge on the computer this weird tale of a delicious day of hedonism.

Do you guys have any information about 6-apdb with people who know they have an inhibited CYP liver enzyme deal that some people get with DXM.
I know Celeste my girlfriend has that for a fact. I don't think that would be the issue with me.
 
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I meant more that the huge differences in duration sounds like aMT. Very strange reaction nonetheless, are you able to do any reagent testing on it?
 
Haha your still coherent, a bit rambly, but definately coherent ;). 6-apdb is probably the next chem on my wishlist, sounds like what I'm looking for. I don't expect to get any inner exploration done with any empathogen (never have, even if I take a strong psychedelic with an empathogen it's always pure hedonistic fun), just looking for something with a psychedelic twist. Contrary to what most report I found 5-apb more psychedelic than 6-apb, though both were more psychedelic than MDA which for me is more... delerious??? Basically lot's of trails but no fractals like the APB's, more along the line of seeing things out the corner of my eye etc... After reading your post I decided to take the plunge (or plunger in my case) and plug 100mgs 6-apb, should be fun. I wish I had some more aMT but 6-apb will suffice, if only I had a 4-sub... metocin or psilacetin in particular but oh well.

Regarding 6-apdb's metabolic activity I'm just as clueless as you are, I'm sure it's metabolized by the same enzyme as 6-apb or MDxx but I could be wrong, I'll try and do some digging. I remember reading a thread where someone was claiming that 6-apb is metabolized by the same enzyme as kratom and most, if not all opioids are metabolized by the same enzyme as DXM (though I've yet to see any conclusive evidence that CYP2d6 metabolizes kratom), and since DXM is metabolized by the same enzyme as 6-apb (if I'm correct) you can probably assume that if your deficient in this enzyme that there will be some effect on metabolism but the chances of both of you being deficient in CYP2d6 (iirc, or is it CYP3a4? Obviously not too sharp when it comes to pharmacology) is likely slim to none. Someone feel free to chime in and correct me if I'm wrong about any of this. I don't really hear of people complaining about overly long, intense rolls by being enzyme deficient but then again I never bothered to look. Also, I think the main reason enzyme deficent folk have weird reactions to DXM is because it's partially a pro-drug for DXO... I'm not sure if 6-apdb is a pro-drug at all.
 
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Yeah i am getting pretty worn down now. It's like 10:07 at night, we've been watching anime movies.
I'm still really together despite the incredibly long duration i've been experiencing.
I actually just ran out of testing kits. But i'm going to have some money come to me shortly.
So this will be on the list.
 
Try ordering your reagents from ebay, you wouldn't believe how cheap reagents are on there. Btw I ended up plugging 160mgs of 6-apb, smoked like 20mgs of 5-meo-mipt on the comedown, and dosed with a mg of 25D... definately a good night. Thanks for the motivation :)
 
IME 6-APB (haven't had 6-apdb) lasts a long time. I feel noticeable after-effects into the T+12-16 hr range. Tracers, large pupils, clouded headspace and that's at a very reasonable dose (75-100mg). I won't touch it after 7-8pm if I have to work the next morning, it lingers too much.Maybe I'm the exception though...
 
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I don't see why its so far out there for 6-APDB to last forever? MDA lasts forever in some people, myself included, its not that far of a stretch to think that the APB family would be long-lived as well for some people.
 
It lasts a long time especially the after effects. Visuals can stay there for a good while many hours after main effects.
So if you are used to regular MDMA the feeling will be that they last long.
 
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The visual twinges of APDB can last nearly the entirety of the next day. When I smashed through circa 300mg of the stuff, I was getting slight visual disturbances well into the next afternoon.
 
Hey there, So i experimented again last weekend with 100mg.
This time my girlfriend was the one who was wrecked. She was Wildly hallucinating, when she would explain to me how to look at what she was perceiving i would get flashes of hallucination. Watched alot of Anthony Bourdain and we have practically convinced ourselves he is a CIA agent. He goes into these places looking for "the best of the worst" His favorite food is feet, eyes and bone marrow and testicles. kind of like Johnny Depp in Once Upon a Time in mexico. There is a certain bare minimum standard which needs to be kept, and we can't have people thinking they should rise above it! ahahahah! Alot of Demonic Laughter with this drug too... Fucking fantastic shit, for hedonistic afternoon just not doing anything.

ultimately my euphoria and clarity of mind was too perfect at that time for me want to want to take more to attempt to get into that realm of total hallucination.
Clearly this is some strong ass shit. Fully capable of producing STRONG +++.5 type experiences. Just without like the mercy of God Attached thankfully.
 
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