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6-apb vs 5-apb

intelligentmind

intelligentmind

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Not sure how to insert a poll so i guess if people could reply with their opinions.

In your opinion is 6-APB closer to MDMA or 5-APB? I know you cant compare the two they don't come close but what do people prefer as a substitute, if you can't get MDMA what would you prefer.

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Neither are similar to be honest. 6-apb is the better drug in my opinion tho.
 
This is pretty close to "What should I take?" Territory, but I'll leave it open for the time being.

The apb's are both MDA analogs& as such are more similar to that than mdma. If you want mdma, get mdma. Trying to replicate one drug experience with another drug is a little silly. That being said 5 & 6 apb are both really cool drugs IMO. There is some difference of opinion, but generally I think most people find 6 more stimulating & psychedelic, whereas 5 tends a little more towards the mongy side of things. But some people experience the inverse. YMMV. Oh, andi found a combination of the two is better than either alone. But it's always best to try things individually before combining them.
 
Ok. Forget about MDMA as people seemed to misunderstand my question. What do you prefer 6-APB or 5-APB, or even the recently new 5-MAPB?

any major dude: What do you mean by 5 tends a little more towards the mongy side of things?
 
You have to be careful with the timing if you're mixing them tho - if you take them both at the same time the 5-apb overwhelms the 6 and leaves you monged in the couch for the evening.
 
the apbs are closer to mda, not mdma. comparing them to mdma doesnt really do them justice. 6-apb is way more psychedelic than 5-apb, has more nergy, and lasts longer
 
yeah we realize you can't compare them to mdma. The question was if you couldn't get mdma what would you prefer 5apb or 6-apb? On a different note, would taking a small amount of 6-APB for example 40mg 6-APB in combination with 5-APB 100mg be of any use? Would the 40mg 6apb extend the duration of the experience or is 40mg 6apb way too low even though it would be combined with 100mg 5apb?

What is 5-APB's duration of effect. Not the whole experience where your left wide awake stimulated, the high
 
I tried mixing the two but it's tricky - if you don't get the timing and the dosage exactly correct (assuming there is a correct dose that combines well - I havn't found it yet) all that happens is the 5-apb takes away all the fun of the 6-apb and leaves you laid on the couch without the energy to stand.

6-apb by itself is a safe bet however.
 
Ismene said:
I tried mixing the two but it's tricky - if you don't get the timing and the dosage exactly correct (assuming there is a correct dose that combines well - I havn't found it yet) all that happens is the 5-apb takes away all the fun of the 6-apb and leaves you laid on the couch without the energy to stand.

6-apb by itself is a safe bet however.
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That has been the sum of my research as well.
 
Ismene said:
I tried mixing the two but it's tricky - if you don't get the timing and the dosage exactly correct (assuming there is a correct dose that combines well - I havn't found it yet) all that happens is the 5-apb takes away all the fun of the 6-apb and leaves you laid on the couch without the energy to stand.

6-apb by itself is a safe bet however.
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Agreed. Forgot about this thread and posted a mixing attempt in the 6-apb b&d thread. The 5 definitely spoils the 6 and i will not be wasting any more 6 or research time combining the two.
Especially while 6 is worryingly unavailable in the UK.
 
Ismene said:
I tried mixing the two but it's tricky - if you don't get the timing and the dosage exactly correct (assuming there is a correct dose that combines well - I havn't found it yet) all that happens is the 5-apb takes away all the fun of the 6-apb and leaves you laid on the couch without the energy to stand.

6-apb by itself is a safe bet however.
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I found 100mg 6-APB + 50mg 5-APB taken at the same time to be a wonderful combination, probably the most euphoric drug/drug combination I've ever taken. It far far exceeded either substance alone, and it was a lot stronger and longer lasting than I was expecting. Taking both together seems to only bring positive things to the combination for me.

I wouldn't dose the 5-APB any higher than that though, I think when the 5-APB dose begins to approach the strength of the 6-APB dose you'll be too floored to get up and dance and enjoy yourself quite as much (unless of course, that's what you're looking for, in which case go for it).

As for comparing the two, the ic50 values for 5-APDB and 6-APDB show that 5- is more serotonergic and less dopaminergic, and 6- is the more dopaminergic of the two. We can make a reasonable assumption that this carries over into 5-APB and 6-APB, and experience seems to reflect this, which 6-APB being the more purely stimulating and "rushy" substance, while 5-APB often leaving the user floored with not quite as much energy as they'd like. At higher doses the barriers between the two substances blur significantly and the differences are much smaller. 6-APB is also the more psychedelic of the two, and longer lasting.

As for comparing the comedowns, something a lot of people like to bear in mind, it seems to be an individual thing. For the most part I've noticed a trend that many people seem to get really bad comedowns from the more serotonergic substances, e.g. MDMA, 5-APB and the like but suffer little/no comedown from the more dopaminergic ones like Methylone, 6-APB, Amphetamine etc, and some get the opposite.

I personally always had the opposite, MDMA and 5-APB have little/no noticeable comedown other than a few moments of a faint nostalgia for the peak, nothing depressing or bad though - while 6-APB for example can get a little rough on the comedown from higher doses for me.
 
Jesusgreen said:
I found 100mg 6-APB + 50mg 5-APB taken at the same time to be a wonderful combination, probably the most euphoric drug/drug combination I've ever taken. It far far exceeded either substance alone, and it was a lot stronger and longer lasting than I was expecting. Taking both together seems to only bring positive things to the combination for me.
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^This. I haven't done the APB's for a while now, but I do remember that one of the best trips I had was 6/5 combo (120/50). Lovely body high from the 5-apb and the psychedelic/euphoric high from the 6-apb. Come up was amazing and the duration quite impressive.
5-apb on it's own puts me into a strange headspace. Lots of 1000 yard stares and pretty tough to communicate on. 6 is more fun on its own.
 
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