Hello!
This is my report on the rather new chemical 6apb. There has been quite a lot of confusion as to what is real and what not, and what different pellets and powders contain. I waited a bit for the waters to calm down, following a very bad sample i got 4 months ago, and ordered some powder from a respectable continental europe vendor, though with little info/ experiences reported. However, given the effects profile match those of others, i would say it seems to be the real deal. Even if it isnt, it is unique from other chemicals i have tried, and therefore worthy of a trip report.
Test subject is late 20s, male, average build and height, with a history of mainly psychedelics (shrooms, lsd, various 2cs and rc tryptamines), but also some entactogens (methylone, 4fa, mdai, never had mephedrone, saving up the mdma for a special day). Of those, i usually enjoy methylone most for a night out as it gives energy, music appreciation, clear headedness, sexual enhancement, with bearable sideeffects during the trip and a rather controllable (if harsh) comedown. I know that after 24h i will be back to baseline.
6-apb was a tan powder, with a chemical smell, but not too powerful, and seemed confined to the baggie more than the substance itself. Taste was bitter, chemical, and not what i would hold in my mouth for long.
Light dinner was had 1h prior (sandwich with some coke, some fruit)
Dose was ~105mg, with 5mg taken as a allergy test 30 minutes before. With no adverse reactions, i parachuted 100mg, chased with coke.
this was T+0, the beginning of a night out.
T+1h. i am getting dressed and ready for going out. I expect the comeup to be rather long so I dont particuraly loo for any changes. However during the last minutes of ths first hour i begin to feel slightly stimulated.
T+1:30. already out. music feels nice, but it isnt what i would call a comeup. Still, i enjoy talking and looking around. I feel giddy. some mild stomach strain is felt.
T+2h. very nice feelings of happiness and sociability come to mind. there are waves of pleasantness coming over me, with no clear push to do anything other than hold on, let go, enjoy the ride.
this is what i would call the peak and plateau of the trip, ranging from +2 to +5 hours after dosing. it is a beautiful experience.
the headspace is somewhat trippy (reminiscent a bit of 5-meo-dalt for lack of comparison). i am in a friendly place, feeling social and talkative, but i feel very much in control. i do not feel wired, nor mashed, i seem to be myself, but in a very positive mood. i am empathic to others, yet continue my feelings of joy. not overly expansive.
music appreciation is heightened, as is the energy level. I feel like dancing, and movement feels wonderful. dance moves flow out, i enjoy the crowd around me. i would love to dance close to someoneto feel bodies pressed against me, though not in a sensual way, rather a feeling of being part of a group. i see this chem being very much enjoyed by a group of people raving about. still the music is never overpowering. the moments i take to rest and drink are enjoyed as well.
bodywise, drinking a beer on the comeup was no problem (something i cant do on any 2c), and there is jaw clenching and muscle tension. however not really a problem, and no spasms or periferal stimuation present. just a need to tap feet to the beat
. appetite is lost though. body temperature seems to be stable, and there is no excessive sweating (like i get from methylone)
i feel social, talking is no problem, ideas come to mind, memories remembered and want to be shared.
visually, while i am in a somewhat trippy space, there are no OEV nor CEV, except maybe some very light tracing. eye wiggles present and continue for long after the plateau. lasers, clublights, other people are all beautiful to watch.
(so far this has the characteristics of a mellow, prolonged methylone trip, without as much stimulation, but this statemant is oversimplifying things)
T+5h i feel myself coming down slowly. this is where some might consider a redose, and i can see why, however there is no push to do it, no fiending. I feel pleasant just coming down, and continue to enjoy the music, even if i feel a little less energetic. this might also be because i am at the end of a long work day, and thus awake for the past 20h.
i notice that during the comedown, even more so than during the trip, jaw clenching is more frequent, and cotton mouth is more disturbing. i proceed to drinking lots of water and keep myself hydrated.
unlike methylone, there is no kidney bother, nor trouble urinating (which i do quite often, with drinking so much and not sweating). eye wiggles still present.
in a mirror, i still look like myself, pupils are dilated.
T+6h home, i enjoy a hot shower and massagin my leg muscles. i feel coordinated, a little tense. sexually i feel i could perform, and i feel a little horny, but not to the degree that methylone brings.
i continue the comedown, with some stimulation still present, and diminishing music appreciation.
T+6:30h i lay in bed trying to sleep. i do not feel very stimulated, but sleep is delayed. i listen to some mellow tunes waiting for it. still in a very very mild trippy headspace.
during the following 5 hours, i fall to sleep and awake about every hour, having to go to the toilet with some diarrhea. this is probably the worst of the comedown effects. small shits, watery, imperious. horrible.
i have however appetite. i can eat, drink. i cannot really pay attention and work, because i feel tired.
T+12h i can fall asleep and rest for a little bit. when i wake up 3 hours later, i feel a little better, still tired, but better. the shits are still present, but the gi tract relaxes in the latter part of the day.
interestingly enough i still feel a little eye wiggly, and at times my pupils still seem dilated, but no other feelings are felt.
the next day i feel tired, but more physically from the dancing, and sleepy for lack of sleep. no depression, just a little off, like the next day from methylone. i wouldnt use it 2 days in a row, and i suspect the comedown to be worse if it were a large dose.
So a quick sum-up:
positive
- very clear mindset
- in control, no irresitable push to talk/dance/act out
- energetic, dance-able
- social
- nice body high
- not affecting sexual performance
- increased music appreciation
- few posttrip psychological side effects
negative
- the posttrip shits. horrible
- gi tract is accelerated ~12 h.
- cotton mouth. expect to drink ~2l water/ trip
- jaw clench, slight muscle tension
- long comedown, with slight stimulation
neutral
- long comeup
- long comedown
- extended duration of pupil dilation
- lack of appetite ~6 hours
would i use it again?
most likely i will, i like it, though the duration and timeline of the trip makes it a little more difficult to fit in a shedule. this is reserved for longer nights out, but is proving to be a worthy chemical.
recommendation:
start experimenting with low doses. take plenty of fluids. maybe an aspirin to help with muscle pains the day after. vitamin supplements. dont forget to take some energy bars.
This is my report on the rather new chemical 6apb. There has been quite a lot of confusion as to what is real and what not, and what different pellets and powders contain. I waited a bit for the waters to calm down, following a very bad sample i got 4 months ago, and ordered some powder from a respectable continental europe vendor, though with little info/ experiences reported. However, given the effects profile match those of others, i would say it seems to be the real deal. Even if it isnt, it is unique from other chemicals i have tried, and therefore worthy of a trip report.
Test subject is late 20s, male, average build and height, with a history of mainly psychedelics (shrooms, lsd, various 2cs and rc tryptamines), but also some entactogens (methylone, 4fa, mdai, never had mephedrone, saving up the mdma for a special day). Of those, i usually enjoy methylone most for a night out as it gives energy, music appreciation, clear headedness, sexual enhancement, with bearable sideeffects during the trip and a rather controllable (if harsh) comedown. I know that after 24h i will be back to baseline.
6-apb was a tan powder, with a chemical smell, but not too powerful, and seemed confined to the baggie more than the substance itself. Taste was bitter, chemical, and not what i would hold in my mouth for long.
Light dinner was had 1h prior (sandwich with some coke, some fruit)
Dose was ~105mg, with 5mg taken as a allergy test 30 minutes before. With no adverse reactions, i parachuted 100mg, chased with coke.
this was T+0, the beginning of a night out.
T+1h. i am getting dressed and ready for going out. I expect the comeup to be rather long so I dont particuraly loo for any changes. However during the last minutes of ths first hour i begin to feel slightly stimulated.
T+1:30. already out. music feels nice, but it isnt what i would call a comeup. Still, i enjoy talking and looking around. I feel giddy. some mild stomach strain is felt.
T+2h. very nice feelings of happiness and sociability come to mind. there are waves of pleasantness coming over me, with no clear push to do anything other than hold on, let go, enjoy the ride.
this is what i would call the peak and plateau of the trip, ranging from +2 to +5 hours after dosing. it is a beautiful experience.
the headspace is somewhat trippy (reminiscent a bit of 5-meo-dalt for lack of comparison). i am in a friendly place, feeling social and talkative, but i feel very much in control. i do not feel wired, nor mashed, i seem to be myself, but in a very positive mood. i am empathic to others, yet continue my feelings of joy. not overly expansive.
music appreciation is heightened, as is the energy level. I feel like dancing, and movement feels wonderful. dance moves flow out, i enjoy the crowd around me. i would love to dance close to someoneto feel bodies pressed against me, though not in a sensual way, rather a feeling of being part of a group. i see this chem being very much enjoyed by a group of people raving about. still the music is never overpowering. the moments i take to rest and drink are enjoyed as well.
bodywise, drinking a beer on the comeup was no problem (something i cant do on any 2c), and there is jaw clenching and muscle tension. however not really a problem, and no spasms or periferal stimuation present. just a need to tap feet to the beat
. appetite is lost though. body temperature seems to be stable, and there is no excessive sweating (like i get from methylone)i feel social, talking is no problem, ideas come to mind, memories remembered and want to be shared.
visually, while i am in a somewhat trippy space, there are no OEV nor CEV, except maybe some very light tracing. eye wiggles present and continue for long after the plateau. lasers, clublights, other people are all beautiful to watch.
(so far this has the characteristics of a mellow, prolonged methylone trip, without as much stimulation, but this statemant is oversimplifying things)
T+5h i feel myself coming down slowly. this is where some might consider a redose, and i can see why, however there is no push to do it, no fiending. I feel pleasant just coming down, and continue to enjoy the music, even if i feel a little less energetic. this might also be because i am at the end of a long work day, and thus awake for the past 20h.
i notice that during the comedown, even more so than during the trip, jaw clenching is more frequent, and cotton mouth is more disturbing. i proceed to drinking lots of water and keep myself hydrated.
unlike methylone, there is no kidney bother, nor trouble urinating (which i do quite often, with drinking so much and not sweating). eye wiggles still present.
in a mirror, i still look like myself, pupils are dilated.
T+6h home, i enjoy a hot shower and massagin my leg muscles. i feel coordinated, a little tense. sexually i feel i could perform, and i feel a little horny, but not to the degree that methylone brings.
i continue the comedown, with some stimulation still present, and diminishing music appreciation.
T+6:30h i lay in bed trying to sleep. i do not feel very stimulated, but sleep is delayed. i listen to some mellow tunes waiting for it. still in a very very mild trippy headspace.
during the following 5 hours, i fall to sleep and awake about every hour, having to go to the toilet with some diarrhea. this is probably the worst of the comedown effects. small shits, watery, imperious. horrible.
i have however appetite. i can eat, drink. i cannot really pay attention and work, because i feel tired.
T+12h i can fall asleep and rest for a little bit. when i wake up 3 hours later, i feel a little better, still tired, but better. the shits are still present, but the gi tract relaxes in the latter part of the day.
interestingly enough i still feel a little eye wiggly, and at times my pupils still seem dilated, but no other feelings are felt.
the next day i feel tired, but more physically from the dancing, and sleepy for lack of sleep. no depression, just a little off, like the next day from methylone. i wouldnt use it 2 days in a row, and i suspect the comedown to be worse if it were a large dose.
So a quick sum-up:
positive
- very clear mindset
- in control, no irresitable push to talk/dance/act out
- energetic, dance-able
- social
- nice body high
- not affecting sexual performance
- increased music appreciation
- few posttrip psychological side effects
negative
- the posttrip shits. horrible
- gi tract is accelerated ~12 h.
- cotton mouth. expect to drink ~2l water/ trip
- jaw clench, slight muscle tension
- long comedown, with slight stimulation
neutral
- long comeup
- long comedown
- extended duration of pupil dilation
- lack of appetite ~6 hours
would i use it again?
most likely i will, i like it, though the duration and timeline of the trip makes it a little more difficult to fit in a shedule. this is reserved for longer nights out, but is proving to be a worthy chemical.
recommendation:
start experimenting with low doses. take plenty of fluids. maybe an aspirin to help with muscle pains the day after. vitamin supplements. dont forget to take some energy bars.
