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6-APB & HBWR combo - Best high I've had in years!

RatInADrainDitch

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Just wanted to write this TR to tell everyone that mixing 6-APB and a small amount of HBWR seeds is a GREAT IDEA.

I'm very experienced with MDMA, 6-APB, LSD & HBWR... every once in awhile I take small amounts of HBWR just for kicks...always with the simplest cold water extraction that takes 10 minutes from start to finish (LSA dissolves in water very rapidly, so there's no need to soak ground seeds for more than 5 minutes, I've found)

Anyway, prior to this I had taken 6-APB amount 10 times, and to me it was never on par with good MDMA, that is until I took it with HBWR......

I took 250 mg of 6apb about a half hour before drinking my LSA water (made from 4 seeds). After 2 hours, the HBWR was already fully kicked on, but I didnt feel shit from the 6apb. I even thought maybe somehow the LSA had antagonized or blocked the 6apb from working, or just really overpowered it.

Half hour later, the 6apb came on in full force - in an extremely introspective way - I guess I would call it a kind of "solemn euphoria" where I didn't even feel that happy at first because I was so focused on thinking my way through various problems in my life. After a awhile I began to realize that I need not be ashamed of anything, of my unemployment and lack of achievment in recent years (i had been feeling very guilty about the fact that I went to a good, expensive college and since graduating I have found no job, little direction in my life, no girlfriend, and being somewhat antisocial and not all that fun of a person)...anyway, all those feelings of shame were completely dissolved and I became incredibly lucid and openminded - the magic of my early MDMA experiences had returned in full force (I had slightly "lost the magic" of E years before).

Anyway, the "solemn euphoria" eventually turned into a fully mindblown, loved-up, dancing and music crazed euphoria that persisted for 8 hours! In between spurts of music (mostly grateful dead and the rapper T.I. - normally I don't even like rap - go figure) I sat for long periods in meditation. I am a very beginner when it comes to meditation, but I was somehow able to sit painlessly in a perfect full lotus position, something I cannot even achieve when sober. Visually - it felt like a strong MDMA experience - not like my many previous attempts at 6-apb. Subtle glowing and transforming mosaic/blending kind of hallucinations, not like acid or shrooms obviously, but definitely a powerful glow to everything and unbelievably joyful appreciation of color & texture.

After 8 amazing hours of this combo, I was starting to come down and stopped dancing and moving around, and I decided to take 5 capsules of green malay kratom (I have zero tolerance to kratom). I thought the kratom would kind of slow me down into a relaxed euphoria, but oddly enough it made me super energetic again, and once again I started blasting music, dancing, with the occasional 15 min meditation thrown in.

The kratom rebooted the whole trip for another 3 hours, until it was 9:00 am and I started the next day feeling fucking amazing. Was extremely awake and focused the whole day, still very euphoric, with no comedown.

This was definitely one of the best highs I've had in years, way better than 6-APB alone. Also BTW I was by myself the entire time, and while the introspection was fantastic I think this combo would also be great in a social setting, even rivalling MDMA perhaps.
 
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Yeah definitely was high quality tan 6-APB. Thing is, I eyeballed it because I have a lot of experience with 6-APB :(. Might have been 200mg or even 175.....stuff is kind of flaky/powdery, not dense crystals, so it could have been less than 250mg.

I've done 6-APB (without HBWR) several times at this dosage, and never had an experience quite like this.

It's weird...I was on a somewhat-psychedelic dose of HBWR, but this experience felt more focused, more attention to detail in music/colors, and less confusing than 6-APB alone, which is odd because I expected the mindfuck to increase.
 
I guess this isn't really relevant, but I found 6-APB to be WAY more euphoric when I had a 22 oz beer beforehand. And I only took 50 mgs of 6-APB (and I snorted half of that, and parachuted the other half. I was drunk...) And oddly enough, the comedown and day after felt better than 6-APB on it's own. Felt more psychedelic too. It might have done me more damage, but it def felt better.
 
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