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Trip report- 6 apb
Weight approx 10.5-11 stone
SWIM has experimented with 6-apb roughly 10 times in varying doses. Lowest dose being 300mg in 3 bombs over 12ish hours. Highest being 900mg in the same time frame (will cover that experience). SWIM has always taken with others.
Every time SWIM has taken it, SWIM has had very good reactions, along with everyone else present. Apart from the 900mg, SWIM has never had any sort of bad come down. Others have experienced come downs ranging from nausea to insomnia and depression. Insomnia being the main one to effect the others for up to a week, however SWIM is well known to be able to fall asleep anywhere and any time so most likely won't ever effect SWIM.
SWIM has always felt extremely euphoric, empathetic and energetic. At the same time SWIM always gets water retention. SWIM can urinate, however it feels like he is pissing razor blades. Also every male who has taken it suffers from "pilly willy" including people it doesn't effect while on MDMA. Pupils also dilate massively.
In terms of comparing it to MDMA, where SWIM lives, MDMA is hard to get hold of, overpriced and always heavily cut. So for SWIM, 6-apb beats local MDMA hands down. However, several of his friends returning from uni who have sampled some very pure MDMA say it is pretty comparable at similar doses.
SWIM was on a heavy dose of cocodomol for a few trips due to a back problem. A friend also had 2 30/500mg of cocodomol one day a couple hours before ingesting the 6-apb due to a headache. SWIM certainly came up harder and faster than normal and the effects lasted far longer, also seemed to make the entire experience a lot clearer with no buzzy thoughts that SWIM often has. Interestingly, the friend who has incredibly high tolerances to everything he has ever tried came up like a rocket off the one cap, usually requiring 2 or 3 to get to the same place as SWIM. He thoroughly enjoyed the experience. It should be noted that SWIM does not condone this practice but SWIM would say it heightens the effects considerably.
SWIM is now on a heavy dose of Tramadol due to the pain getting worse. SWIM has been on 6-apb twice during this period. Personally, SWIM enjoys this mix, it seems to make the whole trip a bit more "trippy" and SWIM experienced some heavy visual distortions the first time mixing, including classic shimmering surfaces and at one point, the scenery around me melted into pools of liquid. Was very impressive.
However, SWIMS friend stole his medication without asking and took 2 with a bomb of 6-apb. He proceeded to take another 3 during the evening totaling 400mg. Approx T+10:00 hours into the trip, he informed me of what he had done and how he wasn't feeling too great. It should be noted he is a type 1 diabetic so SWIM is not 100% sure if the Tramadol was to blame or his blood sugar going crazy. However he was showing typical signs of being hypo-glemic (confusion, talking gibberish and not being aware of what was going on). However he tested HI, i.e. too high for the meter to read, so SWIM administered insulin and tried to calm him down and cooled him off slowly in a lukewarm shower. Do not try this, SWIM put himself on a diabetic training course in order to look after his friend. He was still very out of it when his blood sugar returned to normal which leads me to think the Tramadol may have caused problems. I included the above to give a full picture of the events and possible warning if you are on prescribed opiates. Also, if you are diabetic, it seems to send your blood sugar off the wall. Even SWIM was fluctuating heavily. Be warned and be careful.
Several times when coming down, different people have talked absolute nonsense. Including such great moments as SWIMS girl friend asking if I had signed a card for work, a friend telling me to stop turning him upside down, asking if my Banksy painting was made from dots and other amusing moments. I am unsure what causes this, maybe someone can shed some light as I like to be informed. SWIM has experienced this under heavy doses and it feels like you are going crazy as you often don't understand why people around you aren't understanding you.
As mentioned earlier, SWIM once took 900mg spread out over approx. 12 hours. While at the time things were going really well and SWIM was having the time of his life, it took a turn for the worse. According to everyone there (as SWIM has no recollection what so ever) it started off with talking rubbish for a while gradually getting weirder and weirder. SWIM remembers some of this but not what SWIM was saying. It progressed into acting weirder and weirder until apparently SWIM no longer recognized any of the people around him (all very long term friends/girlfriend) and went off on a major trip. Friends noticed swim was happy at the time so did not try and intervene. Started to inform them of going on an adventure to space and completely lost the plot for 4 hours. Eventually SWIM slept but woke up abruptly. At this point SWIM freaked out as he had no idea what had gone on, nor why he was naked. SWIM retired to bed. For the following 5 days, SWIM came down with Seretonin syndrome heavily. SWIM was greatly depressed, felt a general sense of gloom and experienced 3rd man syndrome of constantly seeing someone in his peripheral vision. SWIMS friend also took the same dose. While he did not flip out in the same way, for a week he came down with severe depression, insomnia and weirdly kept seeing corpses/mutilated body's. Not surprisingly this terrified him. So another warning (although it is an obvious one) is do not take too much. At the time SWIM didn't realize how many he had taken as he was very "caught in the moment" as it were.
All times were taken orally. Ordered powder from 2 recomended sources. All times had the same effect. However, 1 source was a darker tan than SWIMS usual source and seemed to hit a little stronger at the same doseage. Powder is weighed out to 100mg and put in gel caps. SWIM is going to try plugging it next. SWIM once snorted an incredibly small amount, not enough to feel anything off. However the texture was awful so did not pursue any further.
Sorry for the essay, hope it may help some of you
Trip report- 6 apb
Weight approx 10.5-11 stone
SWIM has experimented with 6-apb roughly 10 times in varying doses. Lowest dose being 300mg in 3 bombs over 12ish hours. Highest being 900mg in the same time frame (will cover that experience). SWIM has always taken with others.
Every time SWIM has taken it, SWIM has had very good reactions, along with everyone else present. Apart from the 900mg, SWIM has never had any sort of bad come down. Others have experienced come downs ranging from nausea to insomnia and depression. Insomnia being the main one to effect the others for up to a week, however SWIM is well known to be able to fall asleep anywhere and any time so most likely won't ever effect SWIM.
SWIM has always felt extremely euphoric, empathetic and energetic. At the same time SWIM always gets water retention. SWIM can urinate, however it feels like he is pissing razor blades. Also every male who has taken it suffers from "pilly willy" including people it doesn't effect while on MDMA. Pupils also dilate massively.
In terms of comparing it to MDMA, where SWIM lives, MDMA is hard to get hold of, overpriced and always heavily cut. So for SWIM, 6-apb beats local MDMA hands down. However, several of his friends returning from uni who have sampled some very pure MDMA say it is pretty comparable at similar doses.
SWIM was on a heavy dose of cocodomol for a few trips due to a back problem. A friend also had 2 30/500mg of cocodomol one day a couple hours before ingesting the 6-apb due to a headache. SWIM certainly came up harder and faster than normal and the effects lasted far longer, also seemed to make the entire experience a lot clearer with no buzzy thoughts that SWIM often has. Interestingly, the friend who has incredibly high tolerances to everything he has ever tried came up like a rocket off the one cap, usually requiring 2 or 3 to get to the same place as SWIM. He thoroughly enjoyed the experience. It should be noted that SWIM does not condone this practice but SWIM would say it heightens the effects considerably.
SWIM is now on a heavy dose of Tramadol due to the pain getting worse. SWIM has been on 6-apb twice during this period. Personally, SWIM enjoys this mix, it seems to make the whole trip a bit more "trippy" and SWIM experienced some heavy visual distortions the first time mixing, including classic shimmering surfaces and at one point, the scenery around me melted into pools of liquid. Was very impressive.
However, SWIMS friend stole his medication without asking and took 2 with a bomb of 6-apb. He proceeded to take another 3 during the evening totaling 400mg. Approx T+10:00 hours into the trip, he informed me of what he had done and how he wasn't feeling too great. It should be noted he is a type 1 diabetic so SWIM is not 100% sure if the Tramadol was to blame or his blood sugar going crazy. However he was showing typical signs of being hypo-glemic (confusion, talking gibberish and not being aware of what was going on). However he tested HI, i.e. too high for the meter to read, so SWIM administered insulin and tried to calm him down and cooled him off slowly in a lukewarm shower. Do not try this, SWIM put himself on a diabetic training course in order to look after his friend. He was still very out of it when his blood sugar returned to normal which leads me to think the Tramadol may have caused problems. I included the above to give a full picture of the events and possible warning if you are on prescribed opiates. Also, if you are diabetic, it seems to send your blood sugar off the wall. Even SWIM was fluctuating heavily. Be warned and be careful.
Several times when coming down, different people have talked absolute nonsense. Including such great moments as SWIMS girl friend asking if I had signed a card for work, a friend telling me to stop turning him upside down, asking if my Banksy painting was made from dots and other amusing moments. I am unsure what causes this, maybe someone can shed some light as I like to be informed. SWIM has experienced this under heavy doses and it feels like you are going crazy as you often don't understand why people around you aren't understanding you.
As mentioned earlier, SWIM once took 900mg spread out over approx. 12 hours. While at the time things were going really well and SWIM was having the time of his life, it took a turn for the worse. According to everyone there (as SWIM has no recollection what so ever) it started off with talking rubbish for a while gradually getting weirder and weirder. SWIM remembers some of this but not what SWIM was saying. It progressed into acting weirder and weirder until apparently SWIM no longer recognized any of the people around him (all very long term friends/girlfriend) and went off on a major trip. Friends noticed swim was happy at the time so did not try and intervene. Started to inform them of going on an adventure to space and completely lost the plot for 4 hours. Eventually SWIM slept but woke up abruptly. At this point SWIM freaked out as he had no idea what had gone on, nor why he was naked. SWIM retired to bed. For the following 5 days, SWIM came down with Seretonin syndrome heavily. SWIM was greatly depressed, felt a general sense of gloom and experienced 3rd man syndrome of constantly seeing someone in his peripheral vision. SWIMS friend also took the same dose. While he did not flip out in the same way, for a week he came down with severe depression, insomnia and weirdly kept seeing corpses/mutilated body's. Not surprisingly this terrified him. So another warning (although it is an obvious one) is do not take too much. At the time SWIM didn't realize how many he had taken as he was very "caught in the moment" as it were.
All times were taken orally. Ordered powder from 2 recomended sources. All times had the same effect. However, 1 source was a darker tan than SWIMS usual source and seemed to hit a little stronger at the same doseage. Powder is weighed out to 100mg and put in gel caps. SWIM is going to try plugging it next. SWIM once snorted an incredibly small amount, not enough to feel anything off. However the texture was awful so did not pursue any further.
Sorry for the essay, hope it may help some of you
