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MollyBomb

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Alright so a couple days ago I attended the <snip> concert and of course, we rolled. After getting about 20 minutes of sleep, I decided to pop a 5htp to help things move smoothly along. This was about 12 hours after I dropped mind you.

So the crash is going as expected, feeling pretty shitty, when all of a sudden I get extreme nausea. I puked about 3 times and started breaking out into a cold sweat. I looked in the mirror and my face was pale and my pupils were about the size of dimes. HUGE.

I looked up the symptoms of (what seemed like) a minor case of serotonin syndrome and I matched a lot of them. The pupil dilation, nausea, vomiting, and the quick onset of the symptoms.

Was this what happened? And I want to know why the 5htp affected me this way so long after I rolled because I usually pop one right when I start crashing and feel dandy.

Thanks!
 
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Could this have been due to something else? I would think that taking 5HTP 12 hours after dropping should not result in this kind of reaction. I am going to leave this thread in ED for a bit longer and then move it to ADD, perhaps someone there can offer something a little more constructive.
 
I really don't know what else could have triggered this. I didn't take anything before I started crashing, and I didn't sleep the whole night. Molly can be a bitch when it comes to that.

And I just wanna point out that I RARELY take 5htp for crashes anymore. I now take tryptophan and find it to be way easier on my body. 5htp would always give me a bit of nausea, but never like this. I was out of tryptophan so I had to resort to the 5htp.

Could there have been MDMA still in my system? If there was wouldn't the 5htp stop it from working? I'm just trying to get some kind of answer because nothing like this has ever happened and I've never had any kind of negative side effects when it comes to using 5htp.
 
I usualy have 200mg of 5htp as soon as i get in from a night out, which is usually only a few hours after dropping the last pill and have never had any problems like this
 
5-htp is cardiotoxic. It gets converted into serotonin by enzymes all throughout your bloodstream, resulting in <2% reaching the brain. It just causes a lot of serotonin to be floating around where you really don't want it. Serotonin is also responsible for making you throw up when necessary, so a surplus could cause some weird things to happen. It always gave me anxiety & breathing problems.

More effective approaches might be to..


- drink a lot of water
- eat a healthy diet with lots of lean protein
- get some piracetam/aniracetam
- smoke weed :)
 
ive found 5-htp have triggered brain zaps before. also ive felt shakey, anxious and sweaty from taking it. avoid it and eat bananas etc
 
so will tryptophan give as much rise in serotonin as with 5-htp (also being cardiotoxic) .cause 5-htp is one step from serotonin via aromatic amino acid decarboxylase.
While tryptophan is two steps away first to 5-htp via tryptophan hydoxylase and then to serotonin .... Do you know where the AAAD and tryptophan hydroxylase enzymes are expresed tissue-specifically?

Can't imagine getting brain zaps from eating turkey eggs or any other high on tryptophan food :)
 
You clearly want to look after your mind/body, thats why you took the 5htp,
but you had negative effects from it (quite scary too id imagine?)

You'd be better off not taking 5htp, you'd be better off with tryptophan,
As cryptix mentioned about a high protein diet,

Theres a list of foods in this guide i made up that are meant to help raise your serotonin levels, so you could always try and eat these foods rather than take supplements : http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/entries/...equire-lower-dose-and-lessen-have-no-comedown.
 
Ive had the same experience that you had, happen to me twice my friends told me it happened because i needed to take it with food i always take it with food now its never happened again might sound like a simple fix but it worked for me.
 
Could have been dehydration? 5htp on an empty stomach? Extreme fatigue? Combo of many factors?

I've taken 5-htp in the car ride on the way home after rolling, mere hours after dropping, never a hint of an issue like this.
 
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