5APB VS 5MAPB DISCUSSION

[TrippyToes]

Just curious on everyone’s opinion.

 

[Pastel]

Are these things still for sale at large? I thought that cheap PMK-based MDMA pretty much killed the gray benzofury market.
I had most of benzofurans. I actually still have one I never got to trying and at this point probably never will.
Hcl salts of both when you could get them were good substances. Most people found that 5-MAPB was closest thing to MDMA. I tried it at the time when I was taking Hcl 5-APB/6-APB mix once a week or once every two weeks so next their prominent push 5-MAPB felt too gentle, even weak. But then I was never a fan of pure MDMA which I found too relaxing for a club dancing scene. As to 5-APB, I found it lacking by itself, but it was great in the mix that I described.

 

[Esperighanto]

Are these things still for sale at large?

Nah they're exceptionally rare relative to normal MDMA.

Hcl salts of both when you could get them were good substances.

The majority of benzofurans don't salt out well to the hydrochloride salt at all, but a couple of them can. Did you guys also have the weird dosing irregularities due to succinate vs hemisuccinate benzofurans back then?

OT: 5-APB feels a lot more like MDA, burning bright like a sparkler for 10-14 hours straight, whereas 5-MAPB is like a 6-8 hour long take on MDMA without any meth-y elements. 5-MAPB is my all time favorite empathogen, it's what should be used in therapy sessions imo.

 

[SuperPsych]

OT: 5-APB feels a lot more like MDA, burning bright like a sparkler for 10-14 hours straight, whereas 5-MAPB is like a 6-8 hour long take on MDMA without any meth-y elements.

If comparing 5-APB and 5-MAPB to MD(M)A; I'd say that this is more or less spot on. To me, 5-APB is comparable to MDA in terms of in your face euphoria, physical stimulation and psychedelia. 5-APB is closer to 8-12 hours for me personally, though it has been years.

Your description of 5-MAPB is spot on, both duration and the qualities of the experience

5-MAPB is my all time favorite empathogen, it's what should be used in therapy sessions imo.

5-MAPB isn't my personal all-time favorite empathogen, but you and I see eye to eye on the therapy thing. IME, 5-MAPB is much more likely to result in trauma processing and dumping. I wouldn't recommend 5-MAPB use unless its with someone that one trusts very deeply or in a therapy session. If one has secrets that they dont want shared with the world, they should take caution with this chemical.

I have seen it save lives. Multiple occasions of people finally being able to talk about lifelong trauma that they had never been able to talk about. 5-MAPB is a profoundly powerful medicine and I very firmly believe that it's superior to MDMA in terms of medicinal value. 5-MAPB has a fairly smooth comeup, long plateau and a slow and comfortable decline back to baseline. The lack of stimulation means that 5-MAPB is physically relaxing, almost sedating. All one wants to do while under it's effects is to just sit and talk. Perfect for therapy

 

[Leprechaun]

If comparing 5-APB and 5-MAPB to MD(M)A; I'd say that this is more or less spot on. To me, 5-APB is comparable to MDA in terms of in your face euphoria, physical stimulation and psychedelia. 5-APB is closer to 8-12 hours for me personally, though it has been years.

Your description of 5-MAPB is spot on, both duration and the qualities of the experience


5-MAPB isn't my personal all-time favorite empathogen, but you and I see eye to eye on the therapy thing. IME, 5-MAPB is much more likely to result in trauma processing and dumping. I wouldn't recommend 5-MAPB use unless its with someone that one trusts very deeply or in a therapy session. If one has secrets that they dont want shared with the world, they should take caution with this chemical.

I have seen it save lives. Multiple occasions of people finally being able to talk about lifelong trauma that they had never been able to talk about. 5-MAPB is a profoundly powerful medicine and I very firmly believe that it's superior to MDMA in terms of medicinal value. 5-MAPB has a fairly smooth comeup, long plateau and a slow and comfortable decline back to baseline. The lack of stimulation means that 5-MAPB is physically relaxing, almost sedating. All one wants to do while under it's effects is to just sit and talk. Perfect for therapy

You should absolutely send this off to Dr Nichols. Although he’s retired, I think he would appreciate his creation being given some credit!

 

[Innerpeace]

5-MAPB is much more likely to result in trauma processing and dumping. I wouldn't recommend 5-MAPB use unless its with someone that one trusts very deeply or in a therapy session. If one has secrets that they dont want shared with the world, they should take caution with this chemical.

I agree. Ive done 5 mapb at least ten times over almost ten years, maybe fifteen times. Ime, it is far better at causing you to unleash whatever is on your mind than mdma. Mdma is strong in that regard. I guess Id call 5 mapb super strong , in that regard, trauma processing and dumping.

Better for trauma therapy than mdma. Maps.org would be wise to use this. Although they invested thousands of millions of dollars into mdma, Rick Dobbins more than likely wants to stick with mdma for helping people process trauma under the guide of an psychologist.