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500 mg 4-aco-dmt

Xorkoth said:
Actually, I know it doesn't compare, but the time I had a +4 trip on 60mg or so of 4-AcO-DMT, I could actually type perfectly... I felt like I could do anything, like I was super-sober, like I was channeling the god-force. So it's possible. Especially if the OP uses a lot of psychedelics, because after you've tripped many, many times, especially regularly, you start to be able to function much better on them. I know this was a HUGE amount, but I'm just putting that out there.
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once the come-up was over, in my mind i felt COMPLETELY sober. in retrospect i wasn't anywher near it, but i just felt like i was simply experiencing being brought into the light of god or whatever you want to call it. it felt very real and made plenty sense. also i am quite a frequent user of psychedelics, and have spent some time on heroic doses of shrooms before, but none of them really evne got close to approaching this.
 
rocker97x: i think that you might be onto something, but so far i still haven't shit out the bag as far as i can tell. ill have to see if its completely empty or not when that happens.

CatfishRivers: i still have massive tracers and eating has been really rough for some reason. my stomach isn't upset but the idea of food is just appalling. i've forced myself to drink some ensure and eat a little tiny bit of rice and chicken, but even that was a challenge. mentally i feel okay, although there's still a very distinct sense of "otherness" inside me. i dont really know how to explain that much better, and im also not sure if it has more to do with the chemical itself or the psychological aftereffects. i catch myself in thought loops every once in a while, though, and have been getting huge, lightning fast surges of deja vu consistently every hour or so. overall it feels like basically i took a massive amount of a psychedelic drug yesterday ;)

HerrSchnaufer: i had a milligram scale in the car with me also, and even though the 4-aco-dmt was in a baggie that said "NOT FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION" on it, i'm pretty positive i would've gotten in some kind of trouble. however i'll probably just shove it in my underwear/sock next time, that seems to be slightly simpler, eh?

Morninggloryseed: are dogs really not trained to sniff 4-aco-dmt? this one alerted on my scale which has been used for nothing but 2ce and 4-aco-dmt since i bought it new. or at least i think it alerted, it didn't bark or anything, it just circled around on the seat it was under several times and then the cops started to search the car. what do you think?
 
Jamshyd said:
I think that the whole idea of "Heroic" doses is silly (if not outright irrisponsible) ego stuff, no offense.

That said, I somehow DO have more interest in this compound now that I had before (ie. Nil).
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Really though Jammy, this is a fine compound.

I know you've given up on psychedelia (for completely understandable reasons), but 4-aco-dmt truly is a jewel.

It's worth a try simply for curiosity's sake, if you ever run across it. :)
 
^ Ok, I'll be honest, I have added it to my list of exceptions to my psychedellia embargo. Last year I broke said embargo for DET, and it was all good. We'll see :).

(the list, in order of priority: PiPT, Mescaline, DOM, 4-AcO-DMT)
 
^I am in possession of 1 single hit of DOM, and I can't decide when to take it....

It's like, I want to try it so bad, but I only have 1 so the time has to be perfect. Not easy to decide when is the right time to ingest it. :D
 
Tell me about it. The thing is, DOM sounds very intimidating and to add insult to injury, it is very long-lasting. Sounds pretty mean and unforgiving to me...
 
Roger&Me said:
^I am in possession of 1 single hit of DOM, and I can't decide when to take it....

It's like, I want to try it so bad, but I only have 1 so the time has to be perfect. Not easy to decide when is the right time to ingest it. :D
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I would be afraid that I would die by accident from who knows what before I got around to finding the perfect moment. It's dangerous business walking out your front door, and I door it several times every day! Take it now before you wake up dead one day and can't lol

at least that'd be my rationale behind not saving it and taking it asap!
 
the op is in some other thread posting about 5-meo-dalt now...I guess that means he's doing fine lol
 
Xorkoth said:
No way to be able to tell that. 4-AcO-DMT could just be as safe. Hell, it could be safer.
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Just thought I would make a general comment. :)

As a general rule of thumb (with few exceptions), prodrugs tend to have a higher margin of safety than the drugs they metabolize into (especially as far as overdosing is concerned).
 
Catfishrivers: i'm doing great actually! some residual visuals, things rippling and all that, but besides that, i feel incredible, if slightly lethargic. also, 5-meo-dalt is such a light psychedelic, it really has been helping me integrate some of what i experienced.

i've resolved to strengthen my relationships with the people i already know and trust and love, and to take care of myself and my mind, that is, i've suddenly had an insane interest spike in nootropics and various vitamins/supplements, something i never really considered worthwhile before. i guess i have a newfound respect for the mental space known as "sober", and i really want to preserve what i can of it for as long as i possibly can. i never really realized just how much i love "normal" thinking until it was all completely torn away from me, eh?

also, after being so far out there i really feel like it's time to get grounded for a while, and to spend some time "sitting" in my body, if you know what i mean. i'm still reorienting myself with reality, but doing some solid exercise and taking looooooooong showers is making me feel more centered than ever before. in fact, i would recommend both of those things to everybody FAR more than i would 500 mg of 4-aco-dmt, and they're perfectly legal and entirely safe (also much, much cheaper!).

whatsgood: i was actually just thinking that today myself! i've never used an RC before that i feel more comfortable with. this may actually be, at some point a LONG time from now, the only compound i'd feel safe using intramuscularly. we'll see! until then, i'm laying off of everything but some very, very low-dose mdma to help with reintegration and possibly some DPT at the 30 day mark.

once again, thanks for all the concern you guys, this is such an awesome community!
 
glad that guys ok. I've never gone past 35mg or so, though one time i had an accident that resulted in about 55-60mg getting blown into my face, though i certainly didn't ingest all of it. Both of those trips were about as intense as i like things to get, if not slightly moreso.

Also, to the OP, its possible there may still be some in the bag wherever it is in your tract, so if you continue getting loopy thoughts & visuals for a few days, don't be worried. I wouldn't expect to get fully back to baseline until a day or 3 after you pass the baggie
 
lilfoot said:
Morninggloryseed: are dogs really not trained to sniff 4-aco-dmt? this one alerted on my scale which has been used for nothing but 2ce and 4-aco-dmt since i bought it new. or at least i think it alerted, it didn't bark or anything, it just circled around on the seat it was under several times and then the cops started to search the car. what do you think?
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They are not. Those dogs go off all the time though. I know SO many people that have gotten their cars torn apart because of those fucking dogs, even though they had absolutely NO drugs in the car. It's really horrible. I put the baggie under my insole in my shoe.

I'm so happy to see you are ok brother (or sister). <3

May I ask how long you'd estimate you were INTENSELY tripping?
 
Just posted a full-blown TR for those interested, also submitted it to Erowid: http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?p=8617810#post8617810

:)

pitaburd: I would have to ask my girlfriend's sister because I had no interest in time when I started tripping and no interest when I came down, but I'm guessing the part where i was completely disconnected from my body lasted around 8 hours. It was very intense!
 
I just took a 150 mg trip with this substance. It messed with my blood pressure big time. My heart and blood vessels felt painful and as if they were gonna burst. I may have had a mild heart attack or something. No Joke. If I had 25 or 50 more mgs I probablly would have died.

Please be careful with this chem, or just don't use it. Despite my high dose and horrible side effects of the cardiovascular system the visuals were really pretty minimal or at least much less than most psychadelics I've had
 
very interesting.

have you taken reasonable doses of this chemical before? do you have normal reactions to 20mg doses? do you have normal reactions to other chemicals?

either your 4-aco-dmt is misidentified/impure/cut or you have a very different body/brain chemistry from EVERYONE else who has taken this substance.

did you get an external source to verify your cardiovascular issues or did you self-diagnose?
 
Are you positive it was 4-AcO-DMT? Sounds extremely unusual. And please tell me you've worked up to that dose... it sounds like you just suddenly tried it, maybe even without ever having tried it before.
 
I tried about 40 or so mg the first day I got it. I started with inssulfating very small specs of the material. I did this about 5-6 times untill I felt I was good enough. This really didn't give me to much effect. Some minor subtle visuals and lasted for an hour or two. The next day I tried it again. This time I insulfated 3 "bumps" in about a half hour. About the same effect as before maybe a touch stronger. Mind you this was a bag labeled 250 mg 4 aco DMT, which was I had meant to purchase. The next day I felt like I really wanted a true psychadellic experience so I dumped the rest of the bag, about 150 mg or so, into a glass of water (about 3/5 of the bag was left) and downded it. The substance appeared as others have described, a lot like white flower.

One thing I want to mention is that this did not remind me of mushrooms. It has been maybe 2 plus years since I've used them but they were not like this. BTW I have taken other chemicals before, a good bit of shrooms, some morning glory, san pedro, 2ct7, about a dozen or more times with LSD. However, I did have two 2ci trips within the last month, though I didn't have any real negetive side effects. I am in what I believed to be good health, although I am going to abstain from any drugs, alcohol, nicotine, caffeine for a while.

Trust me I to am wondering what was going on, but I definately am never touching this chem agiain, if any research chems

And as for the feeling, I felt serious high blood pressure/aching/dull pain in chest, around eyes, forhead, shoulder, femoral area, etc that moved through my body
 
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