5-meo-mipt

[bpayne]

I recently received a small Sample of this compound.. now the vendor didn't give us exact weight of the samples.. he said that they were on average from 10-20 mg... with most settling at right around 15 mg.. so I have no idea whether the one I got was 10, 11 or even 21 mg for that matter.. I do not have a MG scale.. so what is the safest way to try this? know off gate I know some dickhead is going to poke their shitty nose in here and say something like "if you can afford drugs you can afford a scale" and to them I say.. save it.. that's not what this is about, I didn't buy it it was given to me and no I cannot afford a scale.
Anywho this is about the safest alternative method to determining a small dose of this say I assume it's 15 mg.. and chop it into even pieces.. then take just the tiniest speck of dust off of one of the piles.. thats not too likely to induce something too intense is it? I mean I know that If I had a whole gram or something it would be pretty dumb to try to eyeball a dose.. but with the max possible weight being 15-20 mg.. I should be okay tit-rating up from from tiny pieces, correct? anyone have some alternative methods for safely measuring out something of this nature.. also it makes it harder not knowing if it's on the 15 mg or the 20 mg side and I believe this compound does not dissolve in liquid very well also..

 

[sekio]

If you don't know how much you are starting with, how can you expect to figure out the resulting dosages without a huge margin of error?

The best idea I can come up with from reading TiHKAL is to divide it into 3 piles (or dissolve it into solution and seperate) and use your intuition to choose the 'right' one. If it's done properly you should have piles of approx. 3-7mg assumign your sample is between 10 and 20mg. (TiHKAL reccomends 4-6mg).

That or throw the whole sample in a pipe and smoke it. (TiHKAL 12-20mg)

In all seriousness, buy a scale.

 

[bpayne]

The pipe idea doesn't sound like a bad one, I had always thought it would need to be converted to some sort of freebase in order to be properly smoked.. so your saying that is not the case?.. thanks again for the tips btw.

 

[Indole]

The pipe idea doesn't sound like a bad one, I had always thought it would need to be converted to some sort of freebase in order to be properly smoked.. so your saying that is not the case?.. thanks again for the tips btw.

No you can smoke it as you have it. Sekio is right, throwing the whole thing in a bowl wouldn't be a bad idea as the dosage is 10-20 mg.

 

[DwayneHoover]

I've smoked this before but only in tiny bumps of 5mg which were pretty effective. I wouldn't take tihkal as gospel if it says to smoke that much... sounds wrong to me. Smoking 20mg in a short timeframe is probably WAY too much, based on my own experiences, and others I have discussed/read, probably OD territory. Oral dosing of 8mg is for some quite strong. 10-20mg is typical STRONG ORAL dose range, not smoked. Smoking is faster & stronger, trust me, I've done that and oral numerous time. Don't believe everything you hear here, or any kind of theoretical guesswork based on reading whatever.

Doing unknown amounts of unknown stuff is dumb. So what if it was given to you? Does that force you to take it?

Either take your chances and dose it as given ORAL or give/trade/sell it to someone who can weight it or wants to take the roulette wheel. Some people like it, but others find it VERY physically uncomfortable. You sure you want to smoke possibly way too much and then be in hell for hours if you are one of those it disagrees with?

It's just a drug, just a buzz... why chance putting yourself thru something nasty for such trivial pursuits? Use things you can be more sure about for that, IMHO.

 

[DwayneHoover]

And no, a tiny speck is unlikely do to anything to you. Titrating up bit by bit (even in larger increments than "specks") wont work anyway. By the time you have done enough to have an effect if you'd done it all at once, you will have a tolerance and it just won't work right. The whole idea is a harebrained scheme.

 

[bpayne]

@ Dwayne

Oh Thank You Great Master of the Milligram ...

I asked for dosing assistance not condescension

I ended up splitting it into 5 equal piles to err on the side of caution.. I took a "speck" as an allergy test.. then an hour later ate one pile... after another hour.. I wasn't quite where I wanted to be so I took half of another pile.. I am feeling quite Nice at this point.. and will close my experimentation for now... considering the amount I am working with.. it wouldn't be too damn dangerous if I was to have eaten the whole thing but I am a bit more cautious than that... now I have a pretty good idea as to the amount to use when I further experiment in a few days... and Seiko thanks for being helpful... I am going to try smoking it next time.
Peasch
shun

 

[DwayneHoover]

Glad to hear it worked out well.

 

[TheAzo]

Nice, so between 4 and 8 mg? Sounds just about right to me. And, in fact, that's how much I took for my first time, only I had it measured down to tenth's of an mg (3.8mg followed by 2.1 mg 1 hr later, according to my notes). 5-MeO-MiPT is nice stuff - rather different from most psychedelics. It certainly demands respect though, not a substance to dose recklessly.

 

[DwayneHoover]

Some people don't like it in larger doses. For me, 8mg is threshold. If I do about 20mg oral, there is an initial body-buzz sometimes erotic euphoria period with minor psychedelia (trails, colors). But not until about 3-4 hours in does this wane... only to be replaced by a very DEEP AND PROFOUND cosmic psychedelic mindstate, identification of Self with Planet and Universe, cinematic-level Closed Eye Visuals, impressions of a tingly spot in the 3rd Eye (middle of forehead) [perhaps pineal gland stimulation?], and feelings of almost telepathic connection to everyone and everything everywhere. It's quite amazing if you get this "Second Wind" effect. Sensing it DOES require avoiding too many overlapping drugs, avoiding food, etc., and LOOKING/LISTENING for the deeply psychedelic 2nd 3rd-Eye-opening wind effect. It can be subtle and easy to miss if you assume it's all over with the waning of the physical euphoria. STAY TUNED... the best is yet to come.