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5-MeO-DMT Preparation

my friends call nn-dmt and 5-meo the glory and the power,wonderfull stuffs.neither will scare you if you realize you have to give up total control after taking them.sometimes when taken with maoi's the longevity can cause you to think you may have some control tho,,,,squash that thought quickly and you'llbe fine.happy landings.

I agree with calling it the power and glory, in the sense that 5-MeO seems to convey the pure unadulterated message or experience, like a direct way to this mystical feeling. What determines if it feels right or wrong - like heaven or hell (bliss or terror) is if you can surrender to it and accept the transition. Sometimes it is hardly a choice because you can lose your capacity to control this surrender in a way, I guess there are some forms of practice for it.

N,N-DMT ultimately contains the same experience but goes mysteriously about it, your imagination and vision or symbolism manifestation of the psyche seem to get released simultaneously... it tells a story to arrive at the same point and I do know about the point it can get you to arrive at is this ultimate love as well.

This indirect way of getting to it can be glorious, give you very special experiences that are out of this world but it can be harder to get the ultimate deeper message from it, it can be more unclear for some in some situations while it can help in others.

They are both unbelievable and great. I have yet to try a combination.
 
When taking the Syrian Rue with the 5-MeO what is the time line of the 5-MeO? How long does it take to come up, time to peak, length of peak, and total time? I'm assuming it is a lot longer then when smoking it I just curious how much longer.

1. about 45mins for Rue to take full effect, Then the 5meodmt. Let this = t0.

THEN:

2. t0 + 5 mins to first alert after 5-meo-dmt (note I used it dissolved in vodka so this might have sped it up)
3. t0 + 10-15 mins started feeling strong
4. t0 + 15-25 mins rushing very fast to peak <<-- during this part was my "Oh no I might be dying" panic occured as it was obvious something VERY significant was happening and there was absolutely NOTHING I could do about it.
5. t0 + 25-45 mins peaking
6. t0 + 45-60 mins gradually lowering to a non-overwhelming level
7. t0 + 60-90 mins afterglow

Your mileage may vary. Be prepared for a possibly longer peak and longer time before afterglow phase.
 
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D, thanks for the breaddown ... it does sound a little more manageable than the mindshattering 20 seconds after smoking 5meo, however i'm sure that at 15-25min with Rue, it is still overwhelming

Solipsis, you wrote "Sometimes it is hardly a choice because you can lose your capacity to control this surrender in a way, I guess there are some forms of practice for it."
can you say more about what forms of practice do you suggest or know about?
 
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