polidelaiko
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You can smoke the hcl of 5-meo-dmt just like you can smoke mdpv hcl.
Smoking the salt seems possible: link
But I'd say it depends on your method of vaporization. Light bulbs, maybe not. A vape device, maybe yes.
Don't wanna post out of turn but to elaborate salting:
- Dissolve the 5-MeO-DMT . HCl in water, preferably distilled water and not a very big volume, but enough to
dissolve all the powder or crystals. 100 ml could be a workable volume but I don't know how much 5-MeO you have
- Add NaOH (sodium hydroxide which is in some drain cleaners... but I wouldn't recommend using that! Try to order it
somewhere or find a specialty shop. Sometimes it's called lye, it may be available in very common stores for some
purpose. You need to add enough to get the acidity to a pH of 11-12 by adding some and testing some times to see
where you are at. There are pH testing papers you can buy.
- Assuming you don't have a separatory funnel, take a jar that is high rather than wide. Your water / 5-MeO solution
should only fill half of it or under.
- Add a non-polar solvent like Coleman Fuel to extract. To do that shake the content of the jar but be careful because
the non-polar solvent builds up pressure, so open the jar in between the shaking. Shake very very well.
- Remove the top layer (which is the coleman fuel. It's all transparent but it floats on top, you can see a line between
the layers. Remove it with something like a turkey baster. I don't know a better alternative.
- Repeat these last 2 steps to extract more out of it. Two times is sort of OK. Three times is definitely better. Four times
not really necessary.
- Put the liquid somewhere when it can evaporate completely, leaving you with freebase 5-MeO. Do not apply heat with
a direct flame because it will catch on fire! Letting air fan over it speeds up the process.
Are there any methods of using 5-meo-dmt in HCl form?
You can snort it or plug it.. Or try to vape it. Also sandwich method has proven successful.
What is sandwich method?
1) well dimethyltryptammonium (the protonated amine of the tryptamine) is a weak acid, and without knowing the pks (if you don't know what that is no problem) it's not easy to calculate. but if you add naoh until your solution hits ph 12, you are definitely good to go, and overshooting it won't cause problems either.
2) I think for just one gram, 100ml will be more than enough, I guess one gram will easily dissolve in much less.
3) smell is a good indicator to see if the solvent is practically gone, allthough without vacuum purging you will have small traces left which won't be problematic either way.
This method should work as well, just be aware that sodium carbonate is not the same thing as baking soda (sodium bicarbonate, which is a weaker base).
Applying heat seems unneceassary though, in my opinion. And I would also dissolve the salt first and then basify, seems more sensible. You could imagine parts of the salt becoming encased by freebase and thus not being touched by the base. I wonder if the person checked their yields.
Snorting (can hurt a bit and tends to be milder than smoking), plugging ... and technically oral should also be possible but very wasteful.
Wouldn't im be the best method besides vaporization?