5-meo-dmt 3 years of use until breathing problems

[flat-line]

This is trip report of 3 years of 5-meo-dmt use. Over a 3-4year period I used about 3 grams or 5-meo-dmt. My use of 5-meo-dmt was extreme and abuse. At the end of my use of this substance I experienced some severe breathing problems I do not know if it was from the 5-meo-dmt but I have a deep feeling it was.
I tried to condense this as much as I could and give some of the highlights of my 3 years of 5-meo-dmt use. It was hard to condense

I am in good shape I run, bike, swim, never had any serous health problems I have used psychedelics for a couple of decades.

My first time smoking 5-meo-dmt blew me away and I fell in love with it. I put 10mgs on some tin foil, smoked it and laid on my back. In a few seconds this powerful rush was growing, I watched my ego and pieces of my life disintegrate and go flying like confetti in a windstorm then it was like an avalanche rushing down on me until-- I was this white rush that was all of all and none of nothing all at the same time.
I came back, I was blown away, I was in awe and love.

The next 10 times or so I was scared, I would put the chemical in front of me with the lighter and I felt like I was standing on the edge of a skyscraper getting ready to bungee jump. After about another 10 times I felt like it was getting used to it, after about 30 times I felt like it was a nice jump into bliss, I trusted the chemical and was not worried anymore.

I played around with different dosages 8mg was perfect for me, less I might not break through, more was a waste. You can only get so high on 5-meo-dmt, the void is the void.

This was a favorite substance for me I could be blown away in an earth shattering bliss and 30-45 mins later be back at daily life. So I started doing a hit on spare moments in my days and evenings, I almost never smoked it more then once in a day, I believe you need to sleep to integrate a psychedelic experience. But I would smoke it 3-5 times a week most times.
It almost never gave me any side effects just a little tired or burnt after sometimes but nothing a cup of coffee wouldn't fix.

This pattern of smoking 5-meo-dmt 3-5 times a week went on for a couple of years. Into the 3rd year I started having some breathing problems in some of the trips. Sometimes I would have to force myself to breathe, it wasn't like I couldn’t breathe but I would just have to make myself breathe. The breathing problem started to fade and my trips were back to normal. But I started to get a feeling that I was pushing too far.

Shortly after I had a couple of scary trips on 5-meo-dmt, a couple of the trips I was trapped in the death state on the way back.
One of the trips was so vivid and strong, I got stuck in the death state on the way back. I had my life go before me and saw my loved ones without me. It gave me such a bad feeling sorrow, grief, sadness, Why.. I destroyed my life just to take a chemical for no reason.. What a waste.. I hoped my soul could recreate something again and not waste it.
I started coming back.. I was just saying “please let me come back” over and over. Relief.. I should do no more of this chemical.. But days later more.

I got a cold shortly after and stopped for a few weeks then started doing more. The cold lingered.

One night I woke up and could not breathe, it was intense, I struggled through the night and went to walk in hospital the next morning. They said I had very little lung capacity but no scarring or damage maybe bronchitis. They sent me home with steroids and inhaler. The breathing problem was continual in the nights I would wake up gasping and choking. My lungs had no capacity in the day. I went from running miles to hardly making it up a flight of stairs.

After 3months they changed the diagnosis to “asthma” and prescribed daily steroids, neutralizer, inhaler.

I have always believed in holistic health. I decided I was going to breathe and struggle though this until it was over. I went off all the medications and only used the inhaler to rescue me during hours of struggle in the night. The first week was hard.. I would just breath through it..after hours of struggle exhausted and spent I would do the inhaler so I could sleep.
After a week small improvement. Continually Breathe, Breathe, .... After a month I was greatly improving. 2-3 months off the steroids on I was back normal.
On a side note- If I would of followed doctors orders I would still be doing daily steroids, inhalers, other asthma drugs and calling myself “asthmatic”

This sent me into a lot of thought about my use of 5-meo-dmt could the breathing problems be from this chemical ? Did I almost destroy my health from abusing a drug ? I don't know.
In reflection (this is about 3 years later) I pushed it way too far.. I had warnings, strong feelings, visions of death, lingering cold, breathing problems and I still went on until I was in very serious condition.

I don't like bring up negative symptoms that *could* be a side effect of a substance but I wanted to put it out there in case others had similar experiences or have similar experiences in the future.

5-meo-dmt is a very powerful substance it gave me unspeakable experiences, visions and pleasures. I wish I would not of abused it and not tainted my experience with it.

 

[chaosbydesign]

I can relate to you, only with n,n-DMT. I just loved it so much and was so intrigued by the hyperspacial landscapes, entities and insights I gleaned from my trips that I just kept using it. It got to the point where my trips became less and less colorful and meaningful, and started to become blurs where I couldn't even remember anything that happened. It was like my trips just became whirlwinds that blew up in my face and nothing more. People say that psychedelics are rarely abused, but some people just seem to love the feeling of ego disintegration so much, and others become addicted to the feeling of 'enlightenment', whatever that may mean to the individual user. The 5-meo-dmt smoke *is* pretty harsh, so it may be possible that it caused damage to your lungs. I'm sorry that you had to go through that, but I guess that in both of our situations, karma came back for us in a sense. I hope that you will still be able to use psychedelics in the future but more wisely and sparingly, and I hope that your health condition improves. Best to you.

 

[flat-line]

Thanks chaosbydesign, I am back to normal health now and my lungs are fine. I still use psychedelics but not 5-meo-dmt I am afraid I pushed it too far with this chemical.

I could have been the smoke but I kind of think it was a deeper problem like neurological or something. I kind of wanted to put this out there because there are reports of breathing problems and 5-meo-dmt short term but not much on long term problems, but not many people smoke it a few times a week.

I also love n,n-DMT such a nice substance.

 

[Reverend Random]

In a few seconds this powerful rush was growing, I watched my ego and pieces of my life disintegrate and go flying like confetti in a windstorm then it was like an avalanche rushing down on me until-- I was this white rush that was all of all and none of nothing all at the same time.
I came back, I was blown away, I was in awe and love.

The next 10 times or so I was scared, I would put the chemical in front of me with the lighter and I felt like I was standing on the edge of a skyscraper getting ready to bungee jump.

I played around with different dosages 8mg was perfect for me, less I might not break through, more was a waste. You can only get so high on 5-meo-dmt, the void is the void.

I can completely relate to all of the above. Almost an exact description of how I would try to define what 5-MeO-DMT is like. I cannot really imagine abusing it, but then again... the experience is so short and so deep at the same time that you can want more and more... but as you said, it's a substance to be very much respected. I am curious how you interpreted the warning signs in your trips at the moment itself? Didn't you see them as warnings then?

Thanks for the interesting report, man. I like how you handled your breathing problems too. Don't you think those were the ultimate warning sign? I.e. your body telling you 'if you still want to continue, I'm going to force you to give it up. No more!'

 

[flat-line]

I am curious how you interpreted the warning signs in your trips at the moment itself? Didn't you see them as warnings then?

I had become so comfortable with my pattern of use of 5-meo-dmt that I dismissed many of the signs until they become very intense and real. It was also hard to decipher “visions” in trips as warnings, is it a warning? or did I just “trip out” ?

First the feelings came, I just felt like something was a miss and felt like it could be the 5-meo-dmt use. I pushed it to the back of my mind and carried on.

Then the breathing problems in the trips, This scared me more because 5-meo-dmt has reports of breathing problems even one in Tikal. But most reports were vague and I had written them off as anxiety related. They went away, but I was getting more spooked.

The visions of death were spooky.. I would get trapped in a death state for a while. Usually 5-meo-dmt is fast but I would just linger in this death plane like a ghost.
The one scary trip I wrote about in the report was so intense and real.. It happened in the day before my girl friend got home(I don't mention my trips to her) we went to bed later on and she woke up and was shaking and hugged me. She said she dreamed I had died and it was so real.
It was spooky, things were getting too real. This one scared me. Scaled back my use to maybe a third as frequent.

The cold, I believe many colds are your body just saying it need rest and has been pushed to far. Also I was the only one in the household with the cold so I took it personal. Stopped all use of 5-meo-dmt for a few weeks, then did a hit.

Shortly after is when I woke up and could not breathe, that was the final warning for me. The last time I used 5-meo-dmt.


5-meo-dmt is just so different then any psychedelic I have used. When I use to much n,n-DMT I get anxiety on the come up and my trips get jagged and dark. When I do to many shrooms or similar psychedelics I get anxiety on the come up and the trips are dull because my brain is just tired and burnt. I know it is too much and it is not pleasurable.

With 5-meo-dmt I didn't get anxiety, I guess it is just too fast and you get so high that your thoughts cannot cloud the experience.

Don't you think those were the ultimate warning sign? I.e. your body telling you 'if you still want to continue, I'm going to force you to give it up. No more!'

yeah. I feel like it was "ultimate warning sign" I ignored all the other signs until I could not ignore this one.

 

[frontbluntt]

I can relate to you, only with n,n-DMT. I just loved it so much and was so intrigued by the hyperspacial landscapes, entities and insights I gleaned from my trips that I just kept using it. It got to the point where my trips became less and less colorful and meaningful, and started to become blurs where I couldn't even remember anything that happened. It was like my trips just became whirlwinds that blew up in my face and nothing more. People say that psychedelics are rarely abused, but some people just seem to love the feeling of ego disintegration so much, and others become addicted to the feeling of 'enlightenment', whatever that may mean to the individual user. The 5-meo-dmt smoke *is* pretty harsh, so it may be possible that it caused damage to your lungs. I'm sorry that you had to go through that, but I guess that in both of our situations, karma came back for us in a sense. I hope that you will still be able to use psychedelics in the future but more wisely and sparingly, and I hope that your health condition improves. Best to you.

I wish I could get it easily enough to abuse lol

 

[MagickalKat777]

Dude, you smoked a substance continually for years.

Did you not expect the lungs to fight back?

I mean... common sense. The lungs get tired of burning.

Outside of that... Why anyone would smoke that stuff on a constant basis is beyond me... then again, I have no room to talk after my well-known abuse of 5-MeO-AMT... I was at 30mg DAILY at one point while apparently 17mg was enough to kill someone.

Take a break man. A long one. Or switch to pharmahuasca. I've done both... DMT is the spirit molecule and 5-MeO-DMT is the death molecule. In case you don't know, just about every 5-MeO is nasty.

 

[flat-line]

Take a break man. A long one. Or switch to pharmahuasca. I've done both... DMT is the spirit molecule and 5-MeO-DMT is the death molecule. In case you don't know, just about every 5-MeO is nasty.

This is the only 5-meo I have ever done. I have read/skimmed reports on some of the others they do seem a little sketchy and powerful. None of them have intrigued me besides 5-meo-dmt, probably because I like DMT so much.

yeah, I took a long break after this ordeal I will never do 5-meo-dmt again. It really made me step back and reevaluate my substance use and my boundaries of "too much".