5-MeO-DiPT/MiPT combination with MJ / alcohol / kratom

[Shaal]

Hi,

I am soon going to organize and host a party weekend in a house. For this occasion I'd like to try something stronger than the usual alcohol/weed.

A house party where you have to organize, talk to ppl etc. is probably not the best occasion to take psychedelic tryptamines, that would be best taken in a quiet environment.

However, I was thinking 5-MeO-DiPT or 5-MeO-MiPT. I'm thinking these because they seem to not be that psychedelic, so I think they are compatible with a party. I've read it was the "exctasy" of tryptamines. From what I've read 5-MeO-DiPT seems to last longer, it also seems to be more known.

Has anyone combined them with alcohol / MJ? I also have kratom, anyone has tried this combination as well? Coud it have dangerous potential? Would it be useless to take kratom at the same time?

Thanks!

 

[《Plasticity》]

Yeah, going into the trip with the mentality that these drugs are not psychedelic isn't gonna end well. Whatever you do don't mix alcohol with either, that's gonna be a mess. Since I'm not allowed to tell you what to take (btw I'm almost positive this is still a "what should I take thread") I'm gonna tell what I would take. I would stick to a decent dose of moxy, smoke weed for the duration, and take kratom on the comedown.... Fuck 5-MEO-DIPT, that shit is gross and alcohol will ruin any magic that 5-MEO-MIPT will bring to the table and cause excessive vomiting and disgustingness. Obviously this is just personal preferance though.

 

[Shaal]

Thanks. Then maybe I should delete the x or y aspect.

Since the house is not far from the beach I'm probably gonna take it and then go for a walk on the beach (if the weather is nice) in the beginning of the afternoon. This way I will avoid mixing with alcohol.

 

[《Plasticity》]

Yeah I can't see 5-meo-dipt bringing anything pleasant to the table, 5-meo-mipt is just so much better. Anyways don't get too intoxicated if your hosting the party, it would probably be wise to take a small initial dose of moxy orally and when that kicks in vape small amounts till your in a comfortable place that's not overwhelming. Weed should help with any nausea and make the trip a bit stronger and the kratom should be able to bring you back to baseline in a warm cozy state. Once your baseline I guess you could drink if the party is still going but both kratom/alcohol and Moxy/alcohol are unpleasant combos IMO.

 

[Shaal]

I wasn't thinking about taking more than 5mg moxy, since it's my first time. This way I should avoid nausea and too much tripping. What about a MJ / moxy / kratom combo? (I'm not gonna take more than 5g kratom powder at the same time, I've only tried it once).

 

[《Plasticity》]

I've never taken full doses of kratom with moxy but it might be pleasant, it's definately gonna make the moxy less psychedelic but that can be a good thing at a party. Moxy tends to cause nausea in quite a bit of people and kratom may make this worse but if you feel fine when the moxy kicks in I guess you can give it a shot. If you do lemme know how it goes as I'm kinda curious if the combo is pleasant.

 

[Xorkoth]

Okay, first of all, this might not be the best idea considering you expressed doubt in the same sentence as saying you wanted to take a psychedelic for it. But that being said, that's something I would do for sure. If you do decide to do it, I have some advice, since I have a lot of experience with moxy and a bit of experience with foxy.

I would definitely take the 5-MeO-MiPT, not the -DiPT. This is because moxy is MUCH better overall, and very much better for social situations. Foxy is a bit intense, I'd say it's more blatantly psychedelic, and it also intoxicates you significantly more and has a bodyload. 5-MeO-MiPT is also psychedelic though, make no mistake. I like it for social situations though, and for being alone. It makes me feel very open and connected, and makes my mind quite agile and active. I think 5mg is a very reasonable dosage and it's definitely fully active (well, at high dosages - which I've never taken - I hear it becomes quite a bit more psychedelic, but the lower doses produce a full effect as well). Keep in mind that the come-up can be a bit intense, sometimes it is for me and sometimes it isn't. Being outside is definitely preferable to inside (this is true with all tryptamines and pretty much all psychedelics). It won't produce any visuals but it will make your vision bright and crisp. It will also give you some energy. During the come-up you may not want to have to interact with people though so I'd say that's your sketchiest part.

Don't combine alcohol with it, alcohol combines terribly with 5-MeO-MiPT (and probably -DiPT as well). Alcohol doesn't really combine with tryptamines, it can be nice with some phenethylamines but I have never had a good time combining it with a tryptamine. It makes me feel bleary and strange on moxy. It will make the experience a lot less pleasant and will kill a lot of the sparkle of the moxy, even a little bit of alcohol (like half a beer).

Kratom combines well, I'd do it after the peak, when you're starting to come down. If you're feeling a little overwhelmed by the moxy, you could also take it, as it will bring the psychedelic down a bit and also make you feel good like kratom does.

 

[Shaal]

I would definitely take the 5-MeO-MiPT, not the -DiPT. This is because moxy is MUCH better overall, and very much better for social situations.

Yeah, that's why I was originally thinking moxy.

5-MeO-MiPT is also psychedelic though, make no mistake.

And that's what I want. I just didn't want to be tripping balls and having too much visuals because (1) it would be a waste of substance, and (2) it would be more likely to turn into a bad trip. The psychedelic with a social side is perfect though.

Thanks guys! I'll let you know how that went.