yucatanboy
Bluelighter
5-Meo-Dipt/Weed - 1st Time/Very Experienced - Rocky Party Low Dose Fun
Hello fellow BL'ers! I thought I would share my recent first time experience with this substance.
The Scene: College, more than halfway through the second semester of sophomore year at a very hard private institution. The dorm I live in is known for its partying, and there are quite a few heavy drinkers and heavy weed smokers living here. I dosed in my room, and then later went to a party on a neighboring college with my girlfriend(more about that in the body of the report).
The Drug: It was a weekend night at college, and I knew a friend who had recently obtained a large amount of 5-Meo-DIPT("foxy", although I feel that slang names like that can be misleading or can create false expectations in a new user). I obtained 25 milliliters of solution from him (With the concentration mixed at 1mg/1ml, we had discussed the method of accurately measuring doses at length before coming to the conclusion that using a solution would be the best plan). It was in solution with grain alcohol as a solvent. Once I had the substance in my possesion, I decided I should try a low dose, to "test out the waters" and see how this drug affected me. I have read and heard all sorts of conflicting reports about how fun/strong this substance is at various levels, so I just wanted to get a feel for its effects without having a massive overpowering "freak-out" experience. The person that I obtained the drug from had dosed earlier that month with 12mg and described it as being a pretty involved, but not overpowering experience. I decided to orally dose with 8 mg to be safe. I had read up on it beforehand and had a good idea of what to expect (I am a very very frequent visitor of erowid and bluelight).
A little about Me:
Physically: I am a male, 6'1"+ and ~210 lbs. I am not in the best shape, but have been going to the gym and practicing tai chi. I have been sick recently(cold or some variation thereof), so I have been pounding vitamins and drinking herbal tea made of cinnamon, cloves, ginger, and rosemary periodically throughout the day for the last several days. I also drank the tea while tripping as cloves and ginger are antiemetic, and I knew that nausea was sometimes associated with 5-Meo-DIPT. I was a little worried that the cold would come back while I was tripping, but I felt my body could handle the stress and it would turn out ok. I knew that the dose I was taking was small for my body size, and I wanted it that way.
Mentally(Set)(As well as drug history): I have taken many hallucinogens in the past, so I was not too worried about being blown away, although it has been a while since I had done many drugs. I had taken MDMA over the summer and mushrooms the previous semester, as well as salvia a few times. I smoke weed quite regularly, every other day or so on the average, more on weekends. All told, I have taken MDMA/ecstasy pills, psychedelic mushrooms, and acid over 8 times each, and I have taken LSA about 4 times in the form of HBWR seeds(accompanied by the nausea and vomitting associated with the toxins in the seeds each time). This basically summed up to make my confident that nothing in an 8mg dose would make me flip out. I felt I knew myself enough to know when I needed help and when I needed to be alone.
The Trip:
Earlier that day: I had woken up in the afternoon and gone down to the local town with my girlfreind and eaten mediterranean food(mmm falafels
). I had a full stomach when I came back and consumed the substance. I have heard many an arguement about having a full or an empty stomach for tripping. I feel a full stomach helps me sustain energy when tripping on LSD, MDMA, or mushrooms, but is a bad idea on LSA(due to gastro-intestinal problems associated with the toxins in HBWR seeds). I opted to have a full stomach when I tried the substance, knowing it would kick in slower than if I had an empty one, and that nausea might occur.
T + 0 min... Down the hatch! The grain alcohol burns a bit, but I mixed it with a glass of water and chased it with another. I can't really taste much over the taste of the alcohol besides a slight chemical/plastic flavor, similar to the way toluene smells(If anyone has worked in a chem lab, they'll know). I am anxious, and set out my trip supplies to have something to do: Small pipe with screw-on cap, my weed(as always
), gum, blue lotus leaf and salvia in case I wanted to try it in combination with the Meo-DIPT(I didn't get around to using the salvia). I pre-pack the pipe and start writing trip notes.
T + 15 min Still anxious, I decide to do some stretching to get my mind off of my worries(I find that if I worry about something too much, it pretty much sets me up for a paranoid and uncomfertable time... this is true of situations not involving tripping as well). I haven't had any alerts yet.
T + 25 min, a slight headspace starts creeping in. Similar to the after effects of a small bowl of weed on a seasoned smoker. I felt like my vision was beginning to get constricted. Very mild. I decide to go for a walk down to another dorm and visit some friends and the people I lived with last year.
(At this point, times become estimates)
T + 45 min, sitting with F, G, and J outside of their suite in other dorm. The bong is sitting out so I pack it and we smoke a couple bowls. My body feels energized and my vision is a bit fuzzy. I don't feel stimulated like on ecstasy pills or LSD, just energized and warm. Its a good feeling.
T + 1h, retire to another room and smoke more weed(mmmm weed). I notice a difference between myself and the other smokers. They are all plastered against the couch(having been smoking all day and being stoned out of their gourds). I am leaning forward and my eyes are open. I enjoy looking around at different things in the room. I feel some very nice body rushes similar to MDMA, but mild(probably due to the low dose and a full stomach). My friends start drinking but I abstain, deciding it might not be the best idea(in retrospect I don't think one drink would have been harmful). I lose track of time as we watch two simpsons episodes on the computer(Homer in space, and the one where skinner gets fired and replaced by flanders). I notice that there is a little visual fuzzyness and the "something is moving in the corner of my eye" type of distortion, but I can make out most everything and I have no problem following plot lines and conversations.
T + 2hrs, I return to my dorm and stop in on my girlfriend's room(a non-smoker who occasionally partakes of hallucinogens). She is watching the end of momento, and I follow along. I notice that I am still "with it" and composed and can easily act sober. The drug has simply given me a nice overall body buzz similar to the tail end of an MDMA or acid trip combined with weed. After the movie is done we go to our college cafe/store and buy food. I don't eat anything but drink some water(remembering that hydration is always important when on stimulating drugs).
T + 2hrs 30min, I smoke some blue lotus(only a few tiny hits), and note a little bit of relaxation (its a mild relaxant, and i often enjoy combining it with weed). I accidentally knock over the bowl an spill the rest of the lotus. Oh well, its so dry and loose that it's hard to keep packed well, unlike weed or tobacco. My girlfriend wants to go to a party on an all girls college across the street for the members in her "Rocky Horror Picture Show" production. I decide that I am with it enough to handle the stroll and the interesting people(these people are hilariously entertaining when I am sober, so I thought this could be very interesting under the influence of 5-Meo-DIPT). I was a little worried I would be very paranoid packed into a small room with a bunch of people I don't know in a dorm where guys cannot be alone in the hallway without an escort(luckly my girlfreind passes for a member of their college).
Ok, I no longer have any time-stamps to associate with events, as I stopped caring about recording events at their particular times, but I will try to give a chronologically correct account.
We arrived at the dorm and were let in by people from the party. I noticed that I felt quite cold outside(colder than I usually feel), and tingly. Once inside the dorm we went to a small room that was packed with people from the play. I recognized a few faces that I have seen before, but others were completely new. I didn't feel any need to socialize, and I am normally shy in large groups, so I was pretty quiet for most of the time. They had a lot of alcohol and proceeded to get intoxicated(my girlfreind had two drinks and got quite silly as she is very small and has a low tolerance). My vision was a little fuzzy, and lights looked brighter, I enjoyed looking around at things and watching people.
I was content just to sit and watch the people get drunk, talk for a while, and cavort around without saying much. I was enjoying my mild body buzz and was quite relaxed. It was quite humorous as people started jumping on one another and screaming wildly(Rocky cast members are known for their very extroverted sexuality and there was a lot of sexually charged jokes and mock-groping, etc. historically, the cast party turns into a giant lesbian orgy, although that didn't happen last year).
My "weedar" went off at one point and I heard someone across the room talking about weed. I immediately got his attention and offered to smoke a bowl. We went across the hall to another room and smoked a bowl or two of my weed with roughtly 5 or 6 people. Another guy had weed which he said was laced ("yeah man, weed's never made me hallucinate before"). I looked at it and smelled it, and it seemed to be just some REALLY good weed. I have hallucinated off of good weed before, so I thought he just didn't know that weed could be that strong. I quickly debunked a few myths when one girl got frightened that it was laced with LSD. I figured if it was laced, it was coke or PCP, and I doubted either was on the weed, especially after watching the individuals who partook of it. I took a small hit of an ashy bowl of that weed and it tasted pretty normal to me(and I have smoked a lot of weed).
The people in the smoking circle got quite stoned and acted it as well, but I felt simply energized more and quite happy. The 5-Meo-DIPT with weed was a very enjoyable combination for me, and I would probably smoke a lot of weed the next time I use it. It was fun to sit and listen to the faithless album and watch the people stumble around. I felt aloof and happy (on a side note, I once took LSD at a drunken party of my friends and simply sat on the stairs and analyzed all of the social interactions, it was nice).
Back at the party (in total there was about 16 people in the room at some point in the night, but about 10-12 max at one time), there was a lot of drunkenness and hilarious conversation that seemed to rotate around lesbian sex and general molestation. One girl had her breasts "examined" randomly by many of the party-goers (all members of the cast, except me and maybe two others). Another girl drew a large octupus in permanent ink on another girl's right butt-cheek, and there was a discussion about how cool the drawing was and what it would look like to get it as a tattoo. So yeah, it was amuzing, especially in my trippy/stoned state.
As the party dwindled, I was still enjoying a body high, and about T + 7 hrs we smoked some more weed and I drank a few drinks. I suddenly sprouted from my quite, aloof self to a very babbly person in a short time. This was probably precipitated by the alchohol and the fact that there were only a couple people left at the party. We talked about music and partying for a while, and then my girlfriend and I went home at about T + 8-9 hrs and went to sleep. By then, the drug had worn off and I was pretty tired. Unfortunately, I was so tired that I didn't have the energy for sex(grr) and fell asleep quite quickly, but I would like to try having sex while under the influence some time so that I can see if it really does enhance the experience in any way.
Conclusions: I enjoyed the substance, although the Rocky party would have been hilarious sober. Weed is definitely a must for me with this substance, as they go together very well. Next time I think I will try a higher dose and see if I can get any mental or physical effects that might be more like "tripping" per se-open eye or closed eye visuals, entheogenic experiences, etc. I found it to be a nice party drug at a low dose if you want to just go to a party and chill out. Anyway, I have written enough, and need to go do work. Sorry if I rambled too much. Hope you find this report useful in some way. I can answer any pertinent questions people have if they want to ask them. Good luck and happy voyaging.
Know yourself, know your drug, and have a good time.
Ooops, forgot to mention: no nausea the whole time, no diarhea afterwards, i did feel a little bit of muscle tenseness about midway through the party for a while, but it wasn't bad and went away when i moved around and smoked bowls.
Hello fellow BL'ers! I thought I would share my recent first time experience with this substance.
The Scene: College, more than halfway through the second semester of sophomore year at a very hard private institution. The dorm I live in is known for its partying, and there are quite a few heavy drinkers and heavy weed smokers living here. I dosed in my room, and then later went to a party on a neighboring college with my girlfriend(more about that in the body of the report).
The Drug: It was a weekend night at college, and I knew a friend who had recently obtained a large amount of 5-Meo-DIPT("foxy", although I feel that slang names like that can be misleading or can create false expectations in a new user). I obtained 25 milliliters of solution from him (With the concentration mixed at 1mg/1ml, we had discussed the method of accurately measuring doses at length before coming to the conclusion that using a solution would be the best plan). It was in solution with grain alcohol as a solvent. Once I had the substance in my possesion, I decided I should try a low dose, to "test out the waters" and see how this drug affected me. I have read and heard all sorts of conflicting reports about how fun/strong this substance is at various levels, so I just wanted to get a feel for its effects without having a massive overpowering "freak-out" experience. The person that I obtained the drug from had dosed earlier that month with 12mg and described it as being a pretty involved, but not overpowering experience. I decided to orally dose with 8 mg to be safe. I had read up on it beforehand and had a good idea of what to expect (I am a very very frequent visitor of erowid and bluelight).
A little about Me:
Physically: I am a male, 6'1"+ and ~210 lbs. I am not in the best shape, but have been going to the gym and practicing tai chi. I have been sick recently(cold or some variation thereof), so I have been pounding vitamins and drinking herbal tea made of cinnamon, cloves, ginger, and rosemary periodically throughout the day for the last several days. I also drank the tea while tripping as cloves and ginger are antiemetic, and I knew that nausea was sometimes associated with 5-Meo-DIPT. I was a little worried that the cold would come back while I was tripping, but I felt my body could handle the stress and it would turn out ok. I knew that the dose I was taking was small for my body size, and I wanted it that way.
Mentally(Set)(As well as drug history): I have taken many hallucinogens in the past, so I was not too worried about being blown away, although it has been a while since I had done many drugs. I had taken MDMA over the summer and mushrooms the previous semester, as well as salvia a few times. I smoke weed quite regularly, every other day or so on the average, more on weekends. All told, I have taken MDMA/ecstasy pills, psychedelic mushrooms, and acid over 8 times each, and I have taken LSA about 4 times in the form of HBWR seeds(accompanied by the nausea and vomitting associated with the toxins in the seeds each time). This basically summed up to make my confident that nothing in an 8mg dose would make me flip out. I felt I knew myself enough to know when I needed help and when I needed to be alone.
The Trip:
Earlier that day: I had woken up in the afternoon and gone down to the local town with my girlfreind and eaten mediterranean food(mmm falafels
). I had a full stomach when I came back and consumed the substance. I have heard many an arguement about having a full or an empty stomach for tripping. I feel a full stomach helps me sustain energy when tripping on LSD, MDMA, or mushrooms, but is a bad idea on LSA(due to gastro-intestinal problems associated with the toxins in HBWR seeds). I opted to have a full stomach when I tried the substance, knowing it would kick in slower than if I had an empty one, and that nausea might occur.T + 0 min... Down the hatch! The grain alcohol burns a bit, but I mixed it with a glass of water and chased it with another. I can't really taste much over the taste of the alcohol besides a slight chemical/plastic flavor, similar to the way toluene smells(If anyone has worked in a chem lab, they'll know). I am anxious, and set out my trip supplies to have something to do: Small pipe with screw-on cap, my weed(as always
), gum, blue lotus leaf and salvia in case I wanted to try it in combination with the Meo-DIPT(I didn't get around to using the salvia). I pre-pack the pipe and start writing trip notes.T + 15 min Still anxious, I decide to do some stretching to get my mind off of my worries(I find that if I worry about something too much, it pretty much sets me up for a paranoid and uncomfertable time... this is true of situations not involving tripping as well). I haven't had any alerts yet.
T + 25 min, a slight headspace starts creeping in. Similar to the after effects of a small bowl of weed on a seasoned smoker. I felt like my vision was beginning to get constricted. Very mild. I decide to go for a walk down to another dorm and visit some friends and the people I lived with last year.
(At this point, times become estimates)
T + 45 min, sitting with F, G, and J outside of their suite in other dorm. The bong is sitting out so I pack it and we smoke a couple bowls. My body feels energized and my vision is a bit fuzzy. I don't feel stimulated like on ecstasy pills or LSD, just energized and warm. Its a good feeling.
T + 1h, retire to another room and smoke more weed(mmmm weed). I notice a difference between myself and the other smokers. They are all plastered against the couch(having been smoking all day and being stoned out of their gourds). I am leaning forward and my eyes are open. I enjoy looking around at different things in the room. I feel some very nice body rushes similar to MDMA, but mild(probably due to the low dose and a full stomach). My friends start drinking but I abstain, deciding it might not be the best idea(in retrospect I don't think one drink would have been harmful). I lose track of time as we watch two simpsons episodes on the computer(Homer in space, and the one where skinner gets fired and replaced by flanders). I notice that there is a little visual fuzzyness and the "something is moving in the corner of my eye" type of distortion, but I can make out most everything and I have no problem following plot lines and conversations.
T + 2hrs, I return to my dorm and stop in on my girlfriend's room(a non-smoker who occasionally partakes of hallucinogens). She is watching the end of momento, and I follow along. I notice that I am still "with it" and composed and can easily act sober. The drug has simply given me a nice overall body buzz similar to the tail end of an MDMA or acid trip combined with weed. After the movie is done we go to our college cafe/store and buy food. I don't eat anything but drink some water(remembering that hydration is always important when on stimulating drugs).
T + 2hrs 30min, I smoke some blue lotus(only a few tiny hits), and note a little bit of relaxation (its a mild relaxant, and i often enjoy combining it with weed). I accidentally knock over the bowl an spill the rest of the lotus. Oh well, its so dry and loose that it's hard to keep packed well, unlike weed or tobacco. My girlfriend wants to go to a party on an all girls college across the street for the members in her "Rocky Horror Picture Show" production. I decide that I am with it enough to handle the stroll and the interesting people(these people are hilariously entertaining when I am sober, so I thought this could be very interesting under the influence of 5-Meo-DIPT). I was a little worried I would be very paranoid packed into a small room with a bunch of people I don't know in a dorm where guys cannot be alone in the hallway without an escort(luckly my girlfreind passes for a member of their college).
Ok, I no longer have any time-stamps to associate with events, as I stopped caring about recording events at their particular times, but I will try to give a chronologically correct account.
We arrived at the dorm and were let in by people from the party. I noticed that I felt quite cold outside(colder than I usually feel), and tingly. Once inside the dorm we went to a small room that was packed with people from the play. I recognized a few faces that I have seen before, but others were completely new. I didn't feel any need to socialize, and I am normally shy in large groups, so I was pretty quiet for most of the time. They had a lot of alcohol and proceeded to get intoxicated(my girlfreind had two drinks and got quite silly as she is very small and has a low tolerance). My vision was a little fuzzy, and lights looked brighter, I enjoyed looking around at things and watching people.
I was content just to sit and watch the people get drunk, talk for a while, and cavort around without saying much. I was enjoying my mild body buzz and was quite relaxed. It was quite humorous as people started jumping on one another and screaming wildly(Rocky cast members are known for their very extroverted sexuality and there was a lot of sexually charged jokes and mock-groping, etc. historically, the cast party turns into a giant lesbian orgy, although that didn't happen last year).
My "weedar" went off at one point and I heard someone across the room talking about weed. I immediately got his attention and offered to smoke a bowl. We went across the hall to another room and smoked a bowl or two of my weed with roughtly 5 or 6 people. Another guy had weed which he said was laced ("yeah man, weed's never made me hallucinate before"). I looked at it and smelled it, and it seemed to be just some REALLY good weed. I have hallucinated off of good weed before, so I thought he just didn't know that weed could be that strong. I quickly debunked a few myths when one girl got frightened that it was laced with LSD. I figured if it was laced, it was coke or PCP, and I doubted either was on the weed, especially after watching the individuals who partook of it. I took a small hit of an ashy bowl of that weed and it tasted pretty normal to me(and I have smoked a lot of weed).
The people in the smoking circle got quite stoned and acted it as well, but I felt simply energized more and quite happy. The 5-Meo-DIPT with weed was a very enjoyable combination for me, and I would probably smoke a lot of weed the next time I use it. It was fun to sit and listen to the faithless album and watch the people stumble around. I felt aloof and happy (on a side note, I once took LSD at a drunken party of my friends and simply sat on the stairs and analyzed all of the social interactions, it was nice).
Back at the party (in total there was about 16 people in the room at some point in the night, but about 10-12 max at one time), there was a lot of drunkenness and hilarious conversation that seemed to rotate around lesbian sex and general molestation. One girl had her breasts "examined" randomly by many of the party-goers (all members of the cast, except me and maybe two others). Another girl drew a large octupus in permanent ink on another girl's right butt-cheek, and there was a discussion about how cool the drawing was and what it would look like to get it as a tattoo. So yeah, it was amuzing, especially in my trippy/stoned state.
As the party dwindled, I was still enjoying a body high, and about T + 7 hrs we smoked some more weed and I drank a few drinks. I suddenly sprouted from my quite, aloof self to a very babbly person in a short time. This was probably precipitated by the alchohol and the fact that there were only a couple people left at the party. We talked about music and partying for a while, and then my girlfriend and I went home at about T + 8-9 hrs and went to sleep. By then, the drug had worn off and I was pretty tired. Unfortunately, I was so tired that I didn't have the energy for sex(grr) and fell asleep quite quickly, but I would like to try having sex while under the influence some time so that I can see if it really does enhance the experience in any way.
Conclusions: I enjoyed the substance, although the Rocky party would have been hilarious sober. Weed is definitely a must for me with this substance, as they go together very well. Next time I think I will try a higher dose and see if I can get any mental or physical effects that might be more like "tripping" per se-open eye or closed eye visuals, entheogenic experiences, etc. I found it to be a nice party drug at a low dose if you want to just go to a party and chill out. Anyway, I have written enough, and need to go do work. Sorry if I rambled too much. Hope you find this report useful in some way. I can answer any pertinent questions people have if they want to ask them. Good luck and happy voyaging.
Know yourself, know your drug, and have a good time.
Ooops, forgot to mention: no nausea the whole time, no diarhea afterwards, i did feel a little bit of muscle tenseness about midway through the party for a while, but it wasn't bad and went away when i moved around and smoked bowls.
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). Its a very physical substance for me.