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5-Meo-DALT - 2nd time - with moclobemide

yaesutom

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5-MeO-DALT – 2nd time – with RIMA

The first try with this substance was with 24mg almost right after eating a decent meal, surprisingly I already felt it within less than 10 minutes! It did not impress me all that much really. Mostly a nice body buzz, nothing psychedelic (no visuals also, not even trails). Right after I took the capsule I read a report on erowid of a try at 50mg, which seems like a good idea next time I try this substance (without the RIMA moclobemide).

I decided to see if moclobemide would potentiate it or prolong it, so I took a capsule of 35mg 5-MeO-DALT a good 2-3 hours after 150mg moclobemide. I got distracted with other things after taking the mocl. but I know the mao-a inhibition lasts a good while.

Took the capsule at 9:10 (t + 0:00), it is now 12 minutes later/9:21 and I already feel the warm body buzz coming on. I would definitely, NOT compare this at all to MDMA – it seems quite unique to anything i’ve tried. So far I haven’t been too impressed with this stuff (only the one time with 24mg), this is just an experiment to see what the moclobemide does with it mostly. I plan on trying about 50mg by itself in the future as the one report (the person does seem to like the stuff at any dose though), seems uh, nice.

On the 24mg level, it felt mostly like a good ‘buzz’, nothing psychedelic, although I noticed a somewhat ‘fluid’ feeling/movement, that has something in common with ‘huasca/oral DMT and mushrooms (and I suppose MDMA as well). I’ve gotten quite a floaty feeling on a decent dose of ‘huasca which to me has a lot to do with the extremely fluid feeling/perception. It wasn’t too strong though, could have to do with that I had just eaten, although it did come on very fast. I don’t think i’ve taken anything else orally that came on as fast as this stuff. Along with the ‘buzz’, there might have been some slight sensory enhancement, but not too much. I think I would be much more curious about something like 4-Aco-DALT…

Its now t + 20 mins, and I feel it building up some, doesn’t feel any different than when I took it without the moclobemide though. Possibly, the RIMA may slow down the time it takes to come on, like if you take a mao inhibitor and then smoke some DMT or 5-MeO-DMT, it definitely delays the onset for those. Then again it doesn’t with mushrooms or most other things taken orally..

Well it is t + 1:25, and I am feeling groovy and there are some visual effects now. Definite trails, and some minor movement – if I stare into ‘space’ something about it reminds me of the ‘white light’ sorta thing with 5-meo-dmt. Visually, things look overall clearer and ‘crisper’, looking outside (daytime) things look brighter and more vivid colors, in a weird, unique –dalt kinda way, I guess :) . My body feels great, I can only describe it as a ..good ‘buzz’. I think this may be a decent sex enhancer.., although I think there are better things for that (I for one think ‘huasca/oral DMT is one of the best sex ‘enhancers’).

So far I’m thinking, I’d like to try this in combination with other things, especially other tryptamines.

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Well now… its now t+3:10, and well, i’m impressed by this substance.. Visually I see good trails, and just maybe barely, barely some movement but really only on the computer screen with letters. Mostly this is a sensory enhancer, mentally there is nothing psychedelic going on. This definitely does have the fluidness (some have called it floaty) feeling I get from maoi+dmt orally or MDMA, although not quite as good. Colors are nicely enhanced, and going outside for a while just to look around at the trees, as the leaves have changed color it being fall now, was very nice. Its weird though, that I can’t really explain “why” its so nice, its nothing like any other tryptamine i’ve ever taken. I feel like I can do pretty much anything “normal” like I would sober, and in fact I did, just that somehow in an odd way, senses are enhanced that’s sorta hard to explain. I definitely think this would be a nice sex enhancing substance..

Its now t + 4:50, and its mostly down although its still there.. tracers, the enhancement, just slowly coming down. I think the moclobemide has boosted it and maybe prolonged it somewhat. I still have a pleasant body ‘buzz’ also.

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Well at first I thought this stuff sucked, and not that it’s the best thing, but somehow this time I feel rewarded in some weird way to where I would like to experiment more with it. I think though, before I even decide to try a higher dose without the maoi, i’d like to mix it with something first. For some reason it seems like it would be a great thing to add to a “pharmahuasca” mix. Since it comes on so fast after eating the capsule, I can wait until.. whatever I am mixing it with just starts to take effect, and then eat the capsule.

There is an amazing, total lack of any side effects with this stuff too.

A few other things come to mind as to mixing besides ‘huasca, i’m thinking iprocin/4-ho-dipt, 4-ho-mipt, possibly any PEA’s also.. Actually, i should try combining some with 5-meo-aet - as the one time I took about 40mg of that with 4-aco-mipt 20mg, the -aet extremely potentiated and added a flavor to the experience (and also the -aet was taken at the same time and did not need hours to come up). It just seems like something that would be much better when added to something else.

I’ll be sure to report on any other experiments, which will probably be some kind of mix o’ fun :) .
 
I am too excited to try this one day. I don't plan on mixing it with anything (not into combinations, except for good ole LSD/MDMA), but hopefully at the right dosage, 5-MeO-DALT will offer something interesting. I'd love to know what 4-Ho-DALT is like!
 
This chem sounds like another gem, very keen to try it. I'm wondering what higher doses will reveal...
 
Hmmm, beddy interesting. So you don't think the moclobemide helped this in any real way? I've found it doesn't usually contribute much to my trips.

5-MeO-DALT always sounds a bit "mild" to me when I read about it. I'm definitely curious to hear what happens when the dose is pushed a little further, though, as it sounds like there are few side effects of note at the more conservative dosages.

If it doesn't fuck you up right, fuckin' take more, dude! :p
 
hmmm....sounds pretty mild for sure. Don't see why one would fork out hard earned cash when there seems to be more potent and enjoyable tryptamines out there *shrug* though I'd like to see this substance pused to 100mg just to read about it.
 
Actually, at first I wasn't so sure it was a good purchase..

But then, I had a few great fucking nights on it, its not really a psychedelic, its a...a..? I don't know, but somehow with some other people its a lot of fun.

I should've wrote a TR but didnt, but I took this with a friend last halloween night. Well, it was a sunday night, but we thought there's got to be SOME party out there somewhere, SOME drunk women! SOMEWHERE!

So out we went. Just walking around, talking, acting silly, sorta felt like being a kid in a way i guess. We didn't hear one loud drunk person anywhere, which sucked, but, we noticed all those...those... Bush/Cheney signs all over the place (right before the election hehe). So my friend tries to light one on fire (yes i know, ...bad..well no, its not bad because its a bush sign), the fucker wouldn't light!

--- (figures.. the Bush signs would need flame resistant material.. i bet the Kerry signs didnt...... ;) )

Ahh, anyway, no parties to crash, but we had a blast anyway. The stuff is just, fun, in the right setting i guess. I wouldnt take it to "trip" though :).
 
hahaha, very nice report, and yaesutom u are a class clown i bet hahahha! one funny guy

peace.
 
I found the effects of 5-meo-dalt quite subtle also. I smoked 15mg and then 90 minutes later ate around 20-25 more... there's an immediate alert, but no steepness, no rollercoaster of any kind. I did notice that there were plenty of CEV, but there was virtually nothing with my eyes open, and I guess all there was was a slightly tingly stimulation that could be used for anything between essay writing and sex. Went out to a gig and noticed how the alertness remained and slowly turned into euphoria as I downed some beers. Found myself unusually motivated and energetic, yet at the same pretty calm without any superstrong desire to just talk, talk, talk... definitely a wortwhile social enhancer, I think.

Although only borderline psychedelic if at all, I will try this material again when I get the chance. Though next time I will make sure I have not ingested any other tryptamine for over a week, for it had only been 48 hours since I'd had a moderate dose of 4-ho-mipt. In comparison, of course, 5-meo-dalt is child's play, and probably I had built up some tolerance, too.
 
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