5-meo-amt, Does anyone enjoy it?

[islander20]

I've been interested in trying 5 meo amt for a long time now, AMT is one of my favourite drugs and this chemical intrigues me. The vast majority of reports out there seem to paint it as a terrible drug, however most of these trips came when the user was expecting LSD and got 5 meo amt. So my question is do any of the bluelighters who have sampled it enjoy it? Would it be a worthwhile addition to my collection?

 

[Xorkoth]

I personally love AMT... for a while it was my favorite drug and I used it a lot. I have used 5-MeO-AMT a few times (admittedly when I was less experienced, well before trying AMT). I used it in doses from 3.5 to 5 or 6mg. I liked it and also didn't like it. It was definitely more psychedelic for me, but a lot less euphoric and not nearly as nice. Also a bit longer, and the bodyload got pretty intense for me, plus I felt really ill throughout. I used it a few times well before a party and then drank a few drinks on it and really liked how that affected it... the 5-MeO-AMT seemed to make for a nice plateau to party from, but only at a low dose.

I would like to try it again sometime but it definitely felt toxic to my body. I used to get much worse bodyloads than I do now so I am curious what I would find it to be like now.

 

[Onoe]

I personally love AMT... for a while it was my favorite drug and I used it a lot. I have used 5-MeO-AMT a few times (admittedly when I was less experienced, well before trying AMT). I used it in doses from 3.5 to 5 or 6mg. I liked it and also didn't like it. It was definitely more psychedelic for me, but a lot less euphoric and not nearly as nice. Also a bit longer, and the bodyload got pretty intense for me, plus I felt really ill throughout. I used it a few times well before a party and then drank a few drinks on it and really liked how that affected it... the 5-MeO-AMT seemed to make for a nice plateau to party from, but only at a low dose.

I would like to try it again sometime but it definitely felt toxic to my body. I used to get much worse bodyloads than I do now so I am curious what I would find it to be like now.

More psychedelic in comparative to what? I tend to go to for the psychedelic effect over euphoric any day.

 

[I NUK3D U]

You will be hard pressed to find someone who enjoyed their (usually one) 5-meo-aMT experience.

There are a couple of people on here though; they're just hard to find!

 

[omicamushroom]

I have done 5-meo-amt 4 times now.

My first time was with 4-5mg. I went to see my ex-girlfriends piano recital about 4 or 5 hours in. I felt extremely euphoric. The first couple hours were filled with some nausea, but I snapped out of it a little while before the recital. We were in some weird ways... and her family didn't like me much... so it should have been awkward... but I felt damn good. I hadn't seen the family since she left me... come to find out later she dumped me because they didn't approve. The situation is silly... I thought about all of it... and it made me smile... for at least I can appreciate going through a strange experience. I chilled out for a few hours and then made the hour walk home... At this point it was probably 10 hours since dosing. I was so damn alone that night... and had terrible amounts of anxiety and depression. I was living alone... I lost some awesome people... and it was somewhat tough. I didn't really feel like I had anyone... and the drug made me really want some social interaction... I think it was just cause it lasted so long... and it was somewhat expected that i would feel like shit if I was alone... I'm sure if I had a trippy partner it would have been fine.


The second time doesn't count in my mind so much though. I was at a festival and it was part of some sorta psychedelic soup that sure gave one crazy as hell experience... that I will forever remember. Initially I woke up from a trip the previous night with a bunch of mushrooms with a little bit of acid and e. I found the man and took a hit of 5-meo-amt with approximately 2 mg. I should have ate more, but I was unsure of the dosing at the time. I found the man with the information later on... about 4 hours in I ate a bunch of acid and some mushrooms... and somehow was persuaded into doing a good amount of K.... I terrified myself. will never forget this experience... it was quite hellatious... and I was a bit ignorant at the time of what was to happen. Acid and mushrooms were the only drugs I was really experienced with at the time. The first few hours showed a small 5-meo-amt buzz... I though it may just be yesterdays trip lingering, but now that I have tried it a few times I believe I can associate that feeling with 5-meo-amt.

The third time was awesome. I ate about 6 or 7 mg with my friend who ate 5. It hit him hard and he puked an hour into it... he didn't puke anything up except some foam and and the 2 hits of 5-meo-amt. it was pretty strange. I handled my nausea somewhat well. I just burped a whole bunch. I remember we walked a half-hour down this windy street to get into an entrance to the woods. The whole time we felt like we were gonna fall over and puke... we felt very sickly. This stuff is pretty toxic in my opinion. BUt we made it into the woods and had one hell of a day... I was in very excited psychedelic state... there aren't many visuals... I would assume they come from overdosing... based on the effects of 5-meo-amt. It generally affects my mind and the way I comprehend thoughts. memories and associations have a layering affect which causes some confusion about the past... It almost reminded me of a sort of delirium where all my experiences were fuzzed together. I had fun chasing turkeys around, climbing trying, and playing with firecrackers. This trip lasted forever... I'm pretty sure i was still feeling effects from it well into day 2. 12 hours in my trip mate complained of the worst imaginable headache ever. I didn't have it... but my brain did hurt somewhat. We made jokes about it. I didn't sleep until 18 hours after dosing... and was still pretty phased throughout the day after waking up.

The fourth time was a year later from my first experience... and I went to see my ex-girlfriends piano recital. Same type scenario except I ate around 7 mg. The only difference is afterward...instead of going home to be alone... i went to a campfire in the woods.... and I also smoke a small amount of dmt in the woods with some friends that had coincidentally called me upon taking my dose... we met up 3 hours into the trip... The beginning was fucking rocky man... I remember hanging out with my ex-girlfriend and watching an african-jazz ensemble type show. I had to leave because the nausea hit me hard and my anxiety went way up. I remember laying around outside in a secluded area feeling as though i was gonna puke. I went through a whole phase of self-doubt where I asked myself for what reason I chose to do chemicals like this... I had a small feeling of regret starting to surface as I lay there bent over digging up dirt with a stick I had found laying on the ground next to me. Then I received a phone call and met up with a friend almost instantly... Then we met up with my other friends and we made a woods adventure. They had some dmt so we smoked a litttle bit in the woods... and we had a caveman rave... by banging the pond with a stick to create a visualization on the tree which had the ponds reflection upon it... We sang and laughed dude a whole bunch of yelling. It was great... Then I went to the recital on my own... and spent some time talking to her family.... I think the whole situation is funny. Then I went to a campfire and enjoyed really good company until 3 or so in the morning.... where i then decided to walk home rather than accept a ride from my friends... I was pulled over by the cops about a half hour from home... had been bumming around taking my time for about 45 minutes, smoking some hashish. One pulled up beside me... next thing I know there are 3 cruisers there and 5 cops... It was so ridiculous...They harassed me for a little bit asking strange questions... then they asked me if i wanted a ride... I told them that I would rather walk and enjoy the beauty of my surroundings. They looked at me like i was stranger than ever. I had a bright big smile the whole time... and felt absolutely superb. I got home and slept for a few hours and woke up ready to do normal activities.

5-meo-amt is pretty good... It is long... my woods trip was awesome... and the piano recital trips were pretty cool. It may be because I have an emotional attachment to that girl so the whole psychedelic vibe really makes me appreciate her... I'm not obsessive. We are pretty cool with each other. Sometimes I stress her out with my own crazyness... trying to show her the reality of things... making her try things that are intense....like grape fruit juice.... and magic mushrooms... and being part of awkward situations. Whatever.... 5-meo-amt gave a very warm feeling as I experienced the great appreciation for her parents... and for her.... and for the path that led us to knowing one another... my mind was in the most subtle, yet beautiful psychedelic/euphoric state. The subtle, yet persisting feeling is pretty incredible... and so with it I realized why it was possible for me to sit through that terrible nausea.

I don't think people should go about 6 mg with this substance. The negative effects really show it these levels. Some people look for ridiculous visual experiences with ultra accelerated thought processes... or whatever... I'm not sure... and they wind up sick... with there 10 - 20 mg doses... fuck that. Drop a bunch of acid, eat a whole bunch of shrooms, or smoke some dmt if you want some amazingly cool visuals. 5-meo-amt is a subtle psychedelic state with a pleasurable dose of euphoria. I would probably dose it again... hopefully i can see my ex play some piano... haha either way I'm sure it will be a pretty positive experience.

 

[PippUK]

The above post is a pretty interesting Trip Report, seeing that there are so few around with anything good to say about the stuff. It still seems that on measure, 5MeO-AMT is not particularly attractive, at least from most peoples reported experiences. I do wonder why such a material is still manufactured. I can only think that people have bought it mostly by mistake, maybe thinking it was going to be 'a bit like AMT'. A tiny bit of research would probably put most people off, I would have thought.
The idea of a very low dose sounds maybe interesting. Trouble is that there are many other materials that can provide interesting experiences without 5MeO-AMTs gastro intestinal mayhem and other side effects.
Of course your mileage may vary. Peace - Pipp.

 

[Xorkoth]

More psychedelic in comparative to what? I tend to go to for the psychedelic effect over euphoric any day.

More psychedelic than regular AMT is what I meant. But I mean that in a visuals and confusing headspace sort of way, and a throwing you off balance way. I didn't get anything meaningful from it. I've gotten much more meaningful experiences from AMT. It's psychedelic too but just in a more emotional sort of way.

So as I review my statement I guess I could say that overall AMT is more psychedelic because it has brought me to more meaningful places. But I just meant that 5-MeO-AMT is more visual and more of a headfuck.

 

[omicamushroom]

What do you mean by headfuck? With 5-meo-amt, some of my mental processes were far different from normal, but it didn't really change my emotional balance. Generally when I think of myself being in a headfuck I think of myself not being able to control my emotional range. It can happen on acid sometimes just cause I go into a super-stimulated mode... and my mind gets all wrapped in too many things at once. I feel like I am moving at an ultra fast rate. The biggest headfuck times for me are when I take a little bit of mushrooms [1-2 grams] and then I smoke too much weed. I hear about people doing this too often... it will lead to extreme anxiety in some cases. A moderate amount of weed can be good.... but it truly does alter the mushroom experience in my opinion. Sometimes too much weed, in general, can do that to me.

With 5-meo-amt I get a feeling almost similar to MDMA... except it lasts a lot longer. 5-meo-amt is very slow in development. It usually takes 1 - 1 1/2 hour for the nausea too hit me... then 2 - 3 hours to feel that altered feeling... then the peak is probably between hour 4-5 and hours 10 - 12, then the comedown just goes on forever and the next day your still looped out a bit. the nausea is probably the most disgusting part... the euphoria is pretty splendid. I love how slowly it develops. I really do like the development between about hours 3 and 7. Some of my trips I had a hard time managing my euphoria,but there were 2 where I was in good spirits the entire time... even when the after-effects began to hit. The aftereffects usually carry a strange head feeling/ache and some delirious thoughts... like putting something else in a memory that doesn't actually belong in the memories... or the layering of memories.

I think the biggest problem is figuring out the perfect set and setting to do this drug. As far as set goes you would best to be on a series of positive moments leading into your experience. Doing this when you are in and out of being sad or depressed will probably bring that in and out during you experience... at least for me it has. The last 2 trips I had with it were pretty miraculous experiences.... that I treasure as some really good days had... real positive memorable days... mostly cause of the actions done those days. The buzz from the chemical interacted very well with my emotional balance that day.

Setting is harder in my opinion. Its tough to figure out how you are gonna spend your next day. I don't think I would be happy sitting in my house for that long... I would not be happy at a party. A festival might be nice... cause you can at least walk around and chill out... pleasantly talk to people... but sometimes they are even too crazy of a place. 5-meo-amt has worked best for me when I plan a day where I will have to interact with people. The beauty of everyone shows up in an aura around them. I see so much brightness around people while dazed by this chemical. I am very relaxed and can communicate very well and very lovingly. It would be hard to make me angry on this drug. Its a very lethargic happiness... it sort of reminds me of the last burning embers of a good campfire... and those embers just won't die out... and they keep the happiness of the campfire alive to the very end. It is long past the intensity.... I guess the intensity of 5-meo-amt would be the nausea... then afterward the trip is pretty nice. I usually dose 4 or 5 hours before I want to begin getting into social interactions... so I'll dose early then head out to explore in the afternoon. It will be a full day adventure plus some... but the next day... for me it doesn't really matter what I am doing... I usually get no sleep... and I'm just in a level headed buzz all day. Not very energetic or enthusiastic... but very aware and very much alive. A bit silent is all.

I have yet to try AMT. Hopefully one day I can interact with it. Only time will tell.



...sort of just rambled on... I guess I usually do... let me know if ya need any clarification on what was written.

 

[Xorkoth]

I never really got much euphoria with 5-MeO-AMT. AMT though, produces euphoria I prefer to MDMA. I hope you get a chance to try it... if you like 5-MeO-AMT you'll probably LOVE AMT. It's much better according to... just about everyone.

 

[humblegro]

I would call 5-meo-amt a very euphoric drug. I say the best dose for someone who is not timid is 7mg. Never tried aMT, but I like 5-meo-amt better than mdma. I do not partake of 5-meo-amt often. (once every two years) I do between 6 and 8 mg, I vomit with-in 45 minutes everytime. After that it is a very visual, very stimulating feeling. I feel electricity running through my body, arms, and legs, it is really awesome. The only negative, for me, is a sick tummy for a short time. I have heard others say they did not like it, but most persons I encounter say they really like it. Not everyone gets sick from it, seems like 50% do, nearly all have stomach discomfort. I enjoy 5-meo-amt rarely.

 

[Kebil]

I have done a lot of AMT over the past few years, several grams in total, and recently switched to five-MeO-AMT just to see what it was like. Take off is definitely rougher, and I had more nausea than I am used to (I don't usually feel sick from psychedelics, except for this one, and sometimes AMT). I did get pretty good visuals, and once the initial body load had washed over I felt super fine. Waves of euphoria would wash over me occasionally. It was also energizing and I love to draw and work with oil pastels while I am on it. My art work never looks as good the next day as I thought it did, but just playing with colors is intense - the color I put down with my pen/pastel/whatever seems to just pour out of the tip, and it continues to flow and form puddles and waves after I stop.1

It is a very long trip, but fortunately I have found a great way to terminate these experiences and get some sleep quickly - trazodon (Desyrel). I have been prescribed this as an antidepressant and sleep aid. It is a 5-HT2A antagonist with sedation as it's only real side effect. It quickly and effectively blocks the effects of serotonergic psychedelics and lets me sleep within a half to one hour after taking it.

 

[Achten]

I like it too... 0.5-4mg is how I use it.

I also like aMT, dosage ranging from 3mg-40mg.

They both feel so ... natural.

 

[Sir Ron Pib]

AMT just seemed a gone lethargic state till we got to heroic levels then really psychedelic; not a favourite; 5MEO-AMT seemed psychedelic much sooner; I think a good experience is quite possible though I didn't like it much but there were problems; between the fact it's so long, so hard to accurately measure and is possibly a bit toxic all made testing this stuff out harder and can sway ones opinions so my experiments were hardly conclusive and at the low end but essentially I really didn't trust the stuff one bit; not sure how healthy AMT felt but it has at least a longish history of use.
As you have noted a lot of reports aren't too good and suggest if you go ahead that very accurate measurement and careful working up are needed
To answer your question yes some people like it; Would it be a worthwhile addition to your collection? Well obviously if you turned out to be one of those people it would and if your not then it wouldn't.