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5-Meo-AMT & 2C-C - Experienced - A Reflection

AlphaOdure

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AlphaO & 2c-c

I've always enjoyed 2c-c, as for me it is a light PEA w/ little push and gentle nature. Having this characteristic, i pondered its compatibility w/ tryptamines (prior to this experience, i had never mixed PEA's w/ tryptamines--i had only mixed trypt's w/ other trypt's and PEA's w/ PEA's).

For me Alpha-o-dms (5meo-amt) is a seductive chemical. I haven't really explored anything above 8 mg for fear of severe nausea and/or puking. But the euphoria it gives me is quite enjoyable and the visuals are very reminscent of low doses of acid (for me); i would say psilocybin/psilocin, but alphaO seems to be less "alien;" hence its comparison to lsd. Anyways, since i didnt particuarly want to endure a 2 hour puke fest just to trip for 5-6 hours, i decided to test alphaO's compatability w/ another chemical. I had already tried it w/ other tryptamines (iprocin and threshold doses of 5-meo-dipt) to good effect; so i wanted to do something different. (WARNING, i do not suggest mixing 5-meo-amt w/ PEA's or any other tryptamine for that matter, there is some question as to whether or not it is a mild MAOInhibitor due to its relation to AMT, although there is no proof for this. I monitored my tryamine intake for 5 days prior to my experience to be safe.. plus i have no heart trouble as of now, do not try this at home kiddies!).

I decided to mix the alphaO w/ 2c-c. For me, 2c-c is the least stimulating PEA that i have access to and is very generic (in the sense that it doesn't really have a character of its own, or a "push"), thus making it a good candidate for a good ol' polydrug mixture in my book.

So i sat in my bedroom and weighed out about 5 milligrams of the alphaO; i've learned from experience that the best way to dose this substance is sublingually. It seems to reduce the nausea (this probably means that some of alphaO's nauseating properties are due to its absorption in the stomach and/or gastric system and not from neural interaction, just a thought..). If its a mental thing, oh well, it seems to work. This method however does not reduce all gastric distrubances, i still get the occasional shits and stomach pains.

Anyways, i thought it would be a good idea to take the alpha first and wait till after it peaked to dose the 2c-c(to avoid additional nausea and a difficult experience). I was in a great mindset and was particulary excited about taking the alpha. This is b/c i love the music enhancing qualities this compound offers, its absoloutly magical. It was sunday and i have band practice earlier in the day and every practice we record our out-takes and mark area's of improvment. Dosing a little alpha and listening to our band rock out is most certainly one of my favorite pass times.

After i dosed, my two friends and i smoked a quick bowl for good measure (and to combat any upcoming nausea) and preceeded to go for a brisk walk. I usually enjoy going for walks, especially at dusk when on psychedelics, but not when i'm coming up. But strangely enough, 5-meo-amt seems to give me the least trouble coming up (besides nausea but this usually sets in around 1hr after ingestion for me) so i didn't mind at all.

As a clear day slowly turned into a stary night i felt the subtle grasps of the alpha taking hold of me: mild stimulation, slight stomach uneasiness, increased interest in senses. It takes quit a bit of time for the psychedelic qualities to manifest themslves w/ alpha, so i wanted to wait until then to dose the 2c-c.

I don't mean to ramble on about this experience much b/c i simply want to warn people that this isn't a real great combination. The alpha was kicking in nicely but leaving me w/ the same empty, searching for more feeling, this reaffirmed my intentions to dose the 2c-c.

After coming home from the short walk and dropping my one buddy off at his home. I returned to my house and smoked a bowl in the back yard. I weighed about 35mg of 2c-c and downed it with some gatorade.

I spent the rest of the evening in my living room and bedroom trying to form opinions on this experience. But simply put, things wouldn't come. The mixture seemed to distort any intellectual or insightful attributes found with either chemicals. Atop of this, i noticed an increase in bpm and especially in blood pressure when at rest, this was certainly alarming for me b/c i am in very good health, and if anything my blood pressure is on the low-side.

So i sort of spent the next few hours in my bedroom just "dealing" with everything. It wasn't that bad, but didn't provide me with anything useful. i was just "seeing stuff." Which wasn't that bad, but i couldn't get over the sort of scrambled, out of place feeling i had in my mind. ( 2c-c makes me insightful and philosophic where as alpha makes me talkative and open, so this scrambled, unsatisfied feeling must be due to the interaction and not from any one of the chemicals.)

The visuals were very interesting to say the least. I got a more pronounced "alien" feeling to everything along w/ the outright crazy visual distortions experienced on alpha (stretching of objects, complete destruction of depth perception). And the 2c-c added a nice crawling and shifting flavour to everything. It is important for me to add that the each individual drug's visual characteristics were very potenated with this combination even though both chemicals were used in relatively low amounts. I do not know if this points to MAOI activity in 5-meo-amt or not, but i do know that theoritcally MAOI's shouldn't potenate any PEA experiences (maybe it will potenate the side effects) since they are primarily broken down by different enzymes. But in general, the visuals weren't worth the mental "displacement" i felt.

Well i eventually slept off the effects feeling the same old alpha afterglow the next morning (I have the amazing ability to sleep on tryptamines, i usually yawn and get extremely tired during the onset and coming up periods on PEA's as well!). I went on to dose 2c-c the next day to extremely intense effect, but thats for another report (2c-c seems to develop very little tolerance the next day in my experience). All in all this combination wasn't very insightful, pleasurable, or useful. While it provided for interesting visuals, it just wasn't worth the side effects.
 
Thanks for sharing.
Edited title to confrom with guidelines

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'Anyways, since i didnt particuarly want to endure a 2 hour puke fest just to trip for 5-6 hours'

? you only trip 5hrs of AlphaO? that sounds about 10hrs short.
I never got round to taking more than 4mg which was about enough for a +2/+3 for me although many need over 10mg - I puked pretty good on 4mg - but the same as puking off aMT, Propylhuasca or T2 and various others one puke & the puking/nausea is over for the trip. More like 5mins rather than 2 hrs. Perhaps I'm lucky but I say just stick your figures down your throat & puke - then have a great trip.

The only think likely to make me puke for 2hr is ayahuasca & that for a 3-4hr trip
 
yup weird, i only "trip" for about 5 hours on alphaO. (not counting the 2-3 hour comeup). There is residual stimulation afterwards but i dont call this "tripping." If i were to experiment at higher doses then i think it would last longer.

a,o-DMS is a werid chemical though. A lot of people dont need much to get off, while others have taken over 10 mg to get a psychedelic experience. Its very erratic in dosage (or maybe the quality in recent batches has been off?)
 
Those bastards gave me back Sonny! Now I'm stuck with 3 birds again. It sucks.

I'm inclined to believe this issue is more related to quality of material, rather than that the chemical is so erratic in dosage.
 
^^its entirely possible. The alpha i used was from a vendor i typically don't deal with. Its ashame you never know for sure what you're getting. (although murple's old report seemed to be somewhat promising in the area purity in the grey market.)
 
"but i do know that theoritcally MAOI's shouldn't potenate any PEA experiences (maybe it will potenate the side effects) since they are primarily broken down by different enzymes. "

could you expand on how you know this since it is well known that MAOI's like harmaline/moclobemide have been used to potentiate mescaline, 2cb, 2cc, tmpea and others.


"there is some question as to whether or not it is a mild MAOInhibitor due to its relation to AMT"

All psychedelics are MAOI's to a degree - there is no evidence that 5Meo-aMT nor indeed aMT can be used as potentiators any more than psilocin could
 
Hmm, i'm reading these 5-meo-amt reports after trying it a couple times myself.

I read all about the puking and side effects etc. yet I didnt get any of this at all, it was one of the smoothest 'exotic' psychedelics i've tried, although I did need more than I thought (maybe the crappy batch theory) I would need. I also put it under my tongue, and it started to come on within 45 minutes, and it seemed to last a good 6 hours but after that.. maybe some lingering. After 5 hours after taking 6mg of the stuff, I took another 6mg under the tongue (dissolved a measured amount into mouthwash actually, dissolves easy and fast, I had 2mg per "drop"). I'm sure the effects would have been stronger if I took the 12mg at once.. but I had a good time, not mind blowing visuals but they were good and definitely unique. Lots of wierd color tints (patches of blue, pink, green, yellow, on cement outside for example.. or the computer screen). I didnt even feel stimulated really, no body 'load' or nausea. My friend who ate it though, he said it took like 6 hours to come on!! He did not get side effects either. Wierd stuff but I liked it. I'd say, maybe just 'lingering' effects might last 16 hours.. just barely.. but for me the first 6hrs were really "the trip". I'll go with sublingual from now on, as it came on within 45 mins (maybe even less actually). Maybe the mouthwash w/alcohol helped? Who knows.

Nice report, yeah I think 5-meo-amt by itself maybe with some pot seems best - visually it looked like it sure had potential, more so than I saw yet.
 
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