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5-iai in Aus

Blanketlol said:
Support your local drug dealers who are risking their lives to bring you pleasure!
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I would however I (like many others) haven't been able to purchase MDMA for quite a while, and recently the coke has been horrible or non-existent.

or just order some mephedrone and risk being raided by customs....
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This isn't available to purchase anymore, I did get some before it died though but only 1g to sample.
 
phreaky, I would assume 5-IAI would get through customs without much drama.

Its usually a game of luck. If they test it and dont know what the hell it is, they will usually let it through if its deemed safe (i.e non explosive).

Ive had mcat come through (preban yet still illegal in Aus) and had a note from customs stating that they opened the package. I was a little worried at the time but it hadnt been tampered with.

Personally I'd test a smale sample (1g) and see if it makes it. The way I see it is, what can they charge you with for 1g of an unknown substance? Not much.
 
PsiloSubNaut said:
We will all be hearing lots about this substance in coming weeks

I'm not holding my breath for an MDMA replacement but look forward to hearing some bio assays from respected sources
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5-IAI is real. There was loads of crap floating around in the U.K from the Chinese scammers but the real deal has just started to arrive now! Not many people have had it yet but it's going to be huge :D!
 
jblz said:
I was told by someone in person that its essentially mephedrone without the empathy.

As for 5-IAI, I've also been waiting for information on this. Theres a EU (not UK) vendor who's going to have it in stock pretty soon (apparently). This vendor is tied into a group with their own lab, but they also buy from other places so no idea where its going to be made.

Their 6-APB turned out to be very impure (but cheap) so I don't have high hopes. Apart from them I haven't seen this anywhere thats semi-reliable.
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I'm from the U.K and only one vendor has it at all. It's starting to trickle in now and I tested it and it is what people have said it is supposed to be. The other vendors are clearly getting it from China and getting ripped off.
 
^ Yes it would be useful if we could get some more info on distinguishing between the real and fake product. I've just been told of an Aussie vendor offering this already, could easily be a scam though. Given some of the reports over in the Advanced Drug Discussion 5-IAI thread where a user ended up with a bag of phenazepam, I'd be a little weary of whatever one gets. Caveat emptor...

Can anyone elaborate on how it might react with the common test kits/reagents?
 
belarki said:
^ Yes it would be useful if we could get some more info on distinguishing between the real and fake product. I've just been told of an Aussie vendor offering this already, could easily be a scam though. Given some of the reports over in the Advanced Drug Discussion 5-IAI thread where a user ended up with a bag of phenazepam, I'd be a little weary of whatever one gets. Caveat emptor...

Can anyone elaborate on how it might react with the common test kits/reagents?
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it's not available yet on that site which seems to fit with the time line of availability in europe
 
Could someone with a bit more experience in neurotoxicity experiments please explain this bit of paraphrasing (from wiki) about the results from the Nichols paper on 5-IAI

"5-IAI causes some serotonergic neurotoxicity in rats, but is substantially less toxic than the its corresponding amphetamine homologue pIA, with the damage observed barely reaching statistical significance"

are the results suggesting that it is neurotoxic, and if so does this have implications for the end user?

Also, are the synthesis pathways for this chemical similar to that of pIA, and if so is there a risk that a crappy synth could lead to trace amounts of pIA mixed with the 5-IAI? From what i've read so far, this chem has some serious red flags.
 
Also, are the synthesis pathways for this chemical similar to that of pIA, and if so is there a risk that a crappy synth could lead to trace amounts of pIA mixed with the 5-IAI? From what i've read so far, this chem has some serious red flags.
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No. A similar starting material (a benzaldehyde) may be used, but the usual route to the aminoindane would proceed via a 3-propanoic acid intermediate, whereas the amphetamine would be via a nitropropane/phenyl-2-propane route. The chemistry involved is quite different in each case.

However, there is still the possibility of toxic impurities with 5-IAI. What those could be depends on many things, not least the purity of the starting materials, care taken during synthesis, and degree of purification. When purchasing any such products from companies other than those of high repute (e.g. Sigma, Merck etc) there is always risk. As most 5-IAI is expected to come from China, and ultimately sold as "Not for human consumption" it won't be subjected to quality control standards required for pharmaceuticals sold in this country, so it's possible all sorts of things could be present.
 
DIDI said:
That is what I was looking for :D I have had some arrive from the UK . Next question if it tests alright [Fingers crossed] will be about dosage info. I seem to remember seeing somewhere that you take less of it than other RCs
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What you have to take into account though is the results listed for 5-IAI may not have come from that chem =\

From what I've read in the past no one is yet to test a sample of 5-IAI that is 100% sure to be what its supposed to be.

I'm probably wrong, but something to keep in mind before consuming and the flood gates open on what may or may not actually be 5-IAI.

Take your test results with a grain of salt, but regardless I'd be very interested to see graphic test results as well as a user report if you do decide to go ahead with consumption =)

EDIT:: I havent the time to fully read the thread but check post #12 http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=512598

he says "The only one there that I have any doubt about is the 5-IAI - that's part of why I finally got off my ass and did this - I wanted to compare it to the other likely possibilities, so i could know that it was not naphyrone or meph or something. It's reaction was rather distinctive, particularly in how slow it was. "
 
I've actually been reading a bit since I wrote that. It's definitely a bit dicey. Although people have taken rather large amounts of whatever it is out there and are getting very little from it apparently. I am definitely on the cautious side though.
 
Clearly you've read more than me as I'm yet to see any user reports ;)

Any chance you could link to any of your readings?

This thread has a hellova a lot of posts, for a substance who's existance is yet to be confirmed haha
 
Quick report, same description as in linked thread. Clumpy tan coloured powder. Did allergy test, took 100mg, then another 100 1 hour later. No effect whatsoever. Not even bothering to try anymore. I am a 60 k female, very light user of everything. Get drunk on one and a half glasses of wine. If 200 mg all up of something doesn't effect me it's pretty well inert :lol:
 
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