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quadrantpark

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after years of feeling shit after weekends of partying, yet doing my best to combat it with milk thistle, vit b and omega 3 someone suggested 5htp. they said pre load and afterwards, but not on the day you roll. is this right? also should you carry on taking it in the weeks after partying before you roll again?? :):)
 
This topics pretty contriversal, some people love 5htp others say it does nothing. I personall love it. My regimen goes like this
Days 14-7 pre roll i take 400 mgs a day.
I stop 7 days before my roll.
Then as soon as i comedown from the mdma (once fatigue & hunger set in) i take 200 mgs 5htp, a giant omega 3, acai for antioxidants and 3 grams piracetam. Then for a week after my roll i take 400 mgs 5htp, 2 omega3's, 4000 mgs acai, 3.2 grams piracetam.

I feel piracetam is a must for the comedown as well. Dont know how it helps but it sure does. My theory is it helps prevent down regulation of receptors. But thats my crazy theory on it.
 
Personally, I'd never preload. I often take 5htp after a serious night on it, about 24 hours after for a couple of days. Seems to work fine for me.

Not for others.

It's definitely a nasty combo if that helps at all.
 
It has never seemed to do much to me, besides maybe a little placebo, but my ex girlfriend would get brain zaps from rolling, really bad ones, but right when she would take some 5htp they would go away. So i know they work to get rid of brain zaps.
 
^ yea not only that, taking it for anything more than a few days in a row causes your serotonin receptors to downregulate..


i never "preload" with 5htp, i think its a waste and it dulls the effects of the roll. its purely a come down thing for me.
 
.Lucid. said:
^ yea not only that, taking it for anything more than a few days in a row causes your serotonin receptors to downregulate..


i never "preload" with 5htp, i think its a waste and it dulls the effects of the roll. its purely a come down thing for me.
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Thats your opinion. Ive stated mine, op can decipher from there. For me it works wonders. Ive tried it Preload with piracetam and by itself and loading it from day 14 thru 7 preroll then stopping brought back alot of empathy to my roll wich was lacking for around 6 months.
 
ye i think 400mg is a bit to much from what ive read. i also think that preloading is a no no because the high u getbis great and ur brain is running on full at that time anyway. its the after effects were we need help, ha. :):)
 
i used to take 200mg a few days a week. i was fine, but randomly for some reason i took 200mg on wednesday a few weeks ago and i felt sick and shakey and weird like i had some minor serotonin syndrome or similar. so i only take 100mg now couple times a week. although i take quite a lot of different supplements so perhaps one of them potinated or something
 
ColtDan said:
i used to take 200mg a few days a week. i was fine, but randomly for some reason i took 200mg on wednesday a few weeks ago and i felt sick and shakey and weird like i had some minor serotonin syndrome or similar. so i only take 100mg now couple times a week. although i take quite a lot of different supplements so perhaps one of them potinated or something
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Icic. This is the other reason my First post said some people like it others dont.
Thats strange how it gave you an ampy jittery feeling. Ive never got that. Sometimes my morning dose makes me tierd but never jittery. What other supplents do you take?
 
socalthizzn said:
taking it for anything more than a few days in a row causes your serotonin receptors to downregulate..
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Do you have any concrete evidence of this or is it opinion?
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yea.. thats a fact not an opinion. the information is readily available online.. im sure i can find some sources if you really dont believe me.
 
.Lucid. said:
yea.. thats a fact not an opinion. the information is readily available online.. im sure i can find some sources if you really dont believe me.
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Well it works wonderful for me and if its down regulating my receptors for the 7 days im taking it i cant tell. The empathy returned in full for me wen i started preloading it. What ive found says receptors down regulate wen more seratonin is being used than is nessesary. Mdma causes huge dumps of it wich is why they down regulate this is common knowledge. I cant find any information that wen the body is regenerating seratonin levels that receptors down regulate. Or that 5htp causes down regulation. Its a precursor to seratonin not something that release's seratonin, So how does it down regulate receptors?

Im not saying your wrong just that i cant find the info. Maybe im looking in the wrong place idk.
 
^ right its not the 5-htp itself thats doing the downregulating its the serotonin thats processed from it.. youre introducing higher levels of serotonin into your body and after a few days your body responds by downregulating the receptors, same as when you roll, just to a lesser extent. its like building up a tolerance to serotonin basically.. thats why i use it strictly for recovery.. but i could see how you might have luck doing it two weeks before rolling and not the week of.
 
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postloading has helped me. Preloading only dulls the roll for me -- it completely removes the stimulation that makes me want to be social. To me this is one of the best parts and reduces MDMA to being much like MDEA.
 
Honestly, it is a very good vitamin

This has been a debate for a very long time but everyone who tries it only raves about it

Ive been using it for years.
Not only after everytime I "pop"
but...on days I dont feel my best, as well

Helps for dreams too...you think Inception is badass? Take like 3 5htp and go to sleep :D
 
I've done mdma maybe ten times? Maybe my seventh time, I was feeling really down afterward so I took some 5-HTP - one a day for the next week. I felt like shit the entire week.
I don't know if it was the 5-HTP or not but I haven't taken it since then :P
 
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