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5-HTP causing higher Speed Tolerance?!?!

aeguy567

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I take 2 50mg 5-HTP 2 times daily for depression and it works great. But I have noticed that coke and amphetamine isn't the same, I have to take HIGH doses of amphets tohigh, higher than before I took 5-HTP and coke just doesn't seam to be having the same effect on me at all I barely feel anything! I've heard of taking 5-HTP can cause X not to work on ppl properly is this true for speed. If I go off of 5-HTP for a few days would I get the desired results? Thanks for any feed back!
 
Well, the MA in MDMA does stands for methamphetamine... If 5-HTP decreases the effects of E, then it will probably decrease the effects of speed.

I don't understand why this would happen though... I thought 5-HTP just increased serotonin. It definitely makes most psychedelics more potent.

BTW, not to preach, but if you're depressed it probably isn't the best idea to be using cocaine and speed.
 
um... i thought speed/coke tolerance was due to less dopamine/NE avalable or not as many dopamine/NE transporters/receptors.

so where does serotonin come into this?
and don't people PRELOAD on 5-HTP to get HIGHER on E? increasing avalable serotonin or something?

oh, and btw the real reason not to use speed and coke at the same time is because coke basicly stops speed's release of dopamine ;) same reason why coke kills a roll if i remember.
 
I think that, in theory, use of 5-HTP could cause some minor receptor downregulation. This could be seen as tolerance, although I don't think you'd honestly notice anything because of this.
 
so basicly no, we don't think it should cause any signigicant tolerance.

gj, gang.
 
Well it was just wierd that I could take 60-80 mg of adderall, instant release and be higher than shit, but once I stepped up my 5-htp intake to 200mg a day, whcih I am no longer on I now take maybe one a day if that and feel great, but when I stepped up my dose all of the sudden I need at least 120-140 to get going good. I read somewhere where ppl have said to stopp taking 5-HTP for a few days before droppin X because the 5-HTP will cause the X to not work or be very week but I have no idea, but the coke I got turned out to be shit, prob not even coke...but shit happens. I've been off 5-HTP for more than a week and feeel great! Hope it last!
 
basic amp tolerance is actually caused by dopamine transports adapting to not let amphetamines in as easily (originally it sees amphetamines the same as dopamine)

anyway, here's my theory on the matter (I actually enjoy amps more with 5-htp btw)- serotonin and dopamine create a yin yang relationship in the brain, more of one means less of the other. If you add 5-htp to the mix, the dopamine isn't going to be as prevalent because serotonin is taking up some of the space. Amps and cocaine like drugs give you your intense good feelings by flooding your brain with dopamine, 5-htp is gonna make the amps work harder to do that. On the other hand tho, amps can create anxiety normally because dopamine pushes serotonin out, and lowered serotonin causes an anxious state, 5-htp will prevent this :)

also, my thoughts on the reason why sometimes it causes e not to work is because mdma relies on your brain's ability to pick it up like serotonin, if your stores are massively full already then not very much mdma is gonna get in. That said, 5-htp can also make mdma potentiated at lower doses, likely because if the mdma does get in, you have more serotonin for it to play with

a lot of this is theory based on things I've read (how 5-htp, serotonin, dopamine, mdma & amphetamines work individually) so if anyone has any factual info to touch up on it with then feel free

edit: btw, 5-htp builds up serotonin in your brain, once you feel good you can probably do to forget about it until you start feeling shitty again- taking it regularly tends to overdo it (for me at least)
 
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