5-htp between doses of mdma and lsd

[SATripper]

I was just wondering, would taking 5-htp in the morning after taking mdma and lsd the night before help to 'normalize' things, so that you could take lsd and or mdma again later that same day?

I am planning on taking mdma and lsd two nights in a row....

Would the mdma and / or lsd work better on the second day if you take 5-htp as opposed to if you DONT take 5-htp?

I have done quite a bit of searching on this forum and other sites like erowid, but cant seem to get a clear answer...some say it does help mainly after taking mdma and lsd, which is why I am asking if it would work between doses separated by a few hours

I would be interested to hear from people who have actually used 5-htp, and could say if it does or does not do anything for them.

 

[RatInADrainDitch]

I don't think it would make much difference. 5-HTP is pretty worthless in my opinion.

5-HTP could perhaps allow your body to replenish serotonin faster after taking drugs, but it would NOT reverse tolerance at all.

Most people seem to think 5-HTP does nothing at all.

I would take them one night, and save your shit for 3-4 days later! Don't wanna waste those good ones!

 

[superelephant]

Why not just roll one night and trip on the other?

 

[amanitadine]

I don't think it would make much difference. 5-HTP is pretty worthless in my opinion.

5-HTP could perhaps allow your body to replenish serotonin faster after taking drugs, but it would NOT reverse tolerance at all.

Most people seem to think 5-HTP does nothing at all.

I would take them one night, and save your shit for 3-4 days later! Don't wanna waste those good ones!

5-HTP is one of those things that doesn't "feel" like it is doing anything unless you really need it. If ones serotonin stores are depleted taking 5-HTP is very noticeable, and can work a treat.

And to OP: You haven't been able to find conclusive info because it is a murky and complicated subject. It won't affect your tolerance (well, maybe negatively if anything...5HT receptors downregulate fast) but could potentially allow for your "serotonin stores" to be replenished slightly. LSD is not a releaser and shouldn't be affected by 5-HTP. I'd suggest not taking MDMA two nights in a row. LSD can be utilized just fine two nights consecutively (you've gotta up the dose...and it will lose some sparkle regardlessly) but MDMA doesn't play well like that. Your brain would appreciate some restraint too. Someday you may wake up old, fried, and tired, and think "why the fuck did I subject myself to such blah blah blah..."

Blah Blah.

Cheers

 

[SATripper]

Thanks guys, I think I will try to put a day between, and possibly go light on the md on the first day, and stronger on the second party night, or do the acid once night and all the md the other....mmmm decisions decisions

 

[PROZ4C]

Just an option here... Say you have 4 hits of lucy...

Night #1 - Eat all of your MDMA + 1 hit of acid
Night #2 - Eat the rest of the acid

-still get to candyflip
-don't have to worry about MDMA two days in a row (mad tolerance, possibly unhealthy)
-still get to trip pretty damn good second day, since only a small amount (all that's needed for candy-flipping) of acid was used on day one, second day higher amount should overcome tolerance

lots of ways you could do it, let us know what you do and how it went though

have fun brotha

 

[chitownbrown]

i can tell you from experience that 5-htp helps if you have done alot of lsd/mdma because both deplete your serotonin levels. but it dosent work instantaneously. if you want to properly use 5-htp take whatever your taking on one night, then take the 5-htp the next 3 days and then at least 1 more off day. eventually you will get to the point where you have to stop taking rolls/cid for a couple weeks cause there is a cross tolerance and they all deplete your serotonin faster than your body can replace it.

 

[Ismene]

I dunno about LSD working two nights in a row. I once took a small dose of LSD about 200 mics early one morning and decided I'd try to boost it with 600 mics about 10 hours later. I felt absolutely nothing. No effects whatsoever. So unless your tolerance drops to pretty much zero within the next 10 hours then taking the LSD on the second day will be a waste of time.

but cant seem to get a clear answer

That's because the 5-htp thing is placebo. The original experiment done was injecting enormous quantities directly into rat brains - there's absolutely no evidence whatsoever that taking an oral dose has any effect.

But obviously, if someone believes it's going to help them then it will do. But you could substitute the 5-htp with a sugar pill and they'd say the same thing.

 

[amanitadine]

^^^ I'm gonna beg to differ. There are quite a few papers on pubmed and scifinder demonstrating an increase in 5HT and 5HIAA levels in human urine after loading with 5HTP. How this bears on MDMA use is up for debate but personally the effect is pretty profound after say, a heavy MDA session. After too much MDA or MDMA I have problems sleeping, total malaise, and get very emotional. Taking 5HTP in the days after has a very noticeable effect, ie vastly improved sleep, and a stabilization of my mood. If I take 5HTP while already at "baseline" (meaning no serotonin depleting drugs for some time) I feel absolutely nothing.

And I've had scores of LSD experiences two days in a row. I have to take more (2x) but I still get a very dramatic effect. My experiences are not unusual.

 

[ThatOn3Guy]

I've rolled two nights in a row and I don't really recommend it. Although the second time was one of my hardest rolls ever, it only last about 2.5-3 hours and the negative side effects were more apparent. It also becomes more and more like a stimulant and the comedown was the worst I've ever had, didn't feel right for a week.

 

[SATripper]

some feedback, had an awesome time over the 3 nights / 4 days

Night one:
a couple of beers, about 1 gram of shrooms, and a couple of joints meant a super fun party, loads of energy, loving the music and smiles all round

Next day:
a few swigs of a bottle of water with 2 drops liquid acid, 1 hoffman blotter, and a couple of joints during the day with friends all on the same vibe. Lots of visuals, had loads of fun walking around and chatting with mates...hilarious conversation and antics haha

That night:
took about 125mg mdma on an empty stomach and went dancing to awesome psytrance, suddenly more visuals and a second wave from the acid. Smoked a couple of joints and took another 100mg mdma about 3 hours after the first one, one of the best nights ever. I highly recommend the empty stomach thing, it seemed to work much faster than usual, and hit hard in the beginning!

Next day:
Smoked a couple of joints, took another hoffman, and half a dalai lama. The acid was good fun, but nowhere near as strong as it should have been if I hadnt taken the day before. No real visuals, except a small amount of light movments later that night on the dance floor, after taking another 125mg mdma. The mdma was taken on a semi empty stomach, it also hit pretty fast compared to usual. I took another 100mg mdma a couple of hours after the first, was great fun, but not as good as the night before. Had a couple of red bulls for energy, and drank a few beers.

Next day, smoked some joints, relaxed and packed up to go home.

I took 5-htp on all three days in the morning, around 150mg. It seemed to help to get me feeling 'normal state' again, but other than that, I dont think it had much influence at all.

If anything, I think the best thing that seemed to help a lot with making the mdma better, was smoking the weed, it seemed to help both nights last a lot longer

Wow, I feel like such a pig after taking all that stuff, it was probably very unhealthy. I have not felt too bad this week, a little lethargic thats all.....was still awesome tho!