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firsty

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apparently 5-HTP is a precursor to serotonin and so it increases serotonin levels in your brain. i think you're supposed to take it after taking E to ease the depression.

but what if you took it every day for a few days before taking ecstasy? would you have more serotonin in the vesicles(brain) and therefore have much more serotonin to be released once you take ecstasy?
 
Pre-loading, I think it makes you roll better yes, I have not tried but I will in a couple weeks : )
 
it's fine to take it everday (in fact it made me sleep better)
if you preload on the day of rolling, you are likely to experience more mellow/weak high
 
in my experience, pre-loading doesn't raise your 'natural' serotonin level, unless you have been rolling frequently and your levels are depressed below normal. In this case, 5-htp only improves your rolls by helping replenish your depleted levels.

if you haven't rolled for ages, I'd say that taking 5-htp will help with the mood swings during the ensuing week, as opposed to actually 'boosting' your high on the night.

still, after going through a phase of taking every supplement under the sun (and there's quite a few of them: L-tyrosine, 5-htp, glutomine, magnesium, selenium, vits A C & E e.t.c. e.t.c.), I realised that you can't really escape the effects of a comedown. supplements do help somewhat, if you can be bothered - but so much depends on the quality of the pills, what your're mixing, whether you're drinking, smoking e.t.c.

it's like a credit card: you buy something good, you pay it back (sometimes with interest).
 
serotoninstorm said:
Try looking here, here, here. There are a plethora of other threads about this topic. Please use the search engine.
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i did use the search engine and found nothing on this topic.
also, those threads are all COMPLETELY different questions from what I'm asking.

those are asking about 5-htp and the comedown from E
Im asking about boosting readily available serotonin so more gets released when you take E.
 
^Sorry about that.

Taking 5-HTP in theory should increase the amount of serotonin in your brain - but there are no studies that prove this.

Some people use 5-HTP supplements to treat things like depression (based on the theory that it will help stabalize or increase serotonin levels in the brain).

Some people swear by 5-HTP and say that it potentiates their MDMA experience. Other's don't notice a difference at all; and others say that 5-HTP dampens their experience.

My opinion? Placebo.
 
Be careful of serotonin syndrome as a result of taking too much 5-HTP before or with your pills. SWIM has bad a few experiences trying to elevate serotonin to get a better roll. Just don't overdo it and you should be fine.
 
^I've heard people talk about a risk of serotonin syndrome because of taking 5-HTP supplements, but I've never seen any text to back it up... I guess I'll be heading over to Google now (unless anyone wants to link me to an article).
 
i've taken 5-htp the day i rolled, and that was a big mistake. i didnt feel anything. total waste of money and e. i wouldnt recommend taking it on the day of the roll. but i do take 5-htp for a week after a night of rolling.
 
I find that if I take 100-200mgs a day for a few days before I roll I have a slightly stronger experience, but I don't take it on the day I'm going to roll. Plus I also take alot of 5-htp for a week or two after I roll.
 
stvtlb said:
i've taken 5-htp the day i rolled, and that was a big mistake. i didnt feel anything. total waste of money and e. i wouldnt recommend taking it on the day of the roll. but i do take 5-htp for a week after a night of rolling.
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lol was it 50mg or more? i took 50mg then 4 hours later i dropped E
i had a pretty mellow trip but it was weak as i could tell i was half sober/high LOL
 
trancetasy said:
lol was it 50mg or more? i took 50mg then 4 hours later i dropped E
i had a pretty mellow trip but it was weak as i could tell i was half sober/high LOL
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it was one 100mg. i took it a few hours before i dropped e. i didnt have any effects except my pupils were dilalated. it sucked. i'll never forget that night!
 
I usually take 100-200mg the morning before and then another 100-200 per day for 2 days after. I'm not sure but i've heard from others that taking it right before you roll can dampen the effects.
taking 5htp in a daily basis isn't recommended because consistently high blood serotonin levels is bad for your heart.
 
If you do a search for this particular topic, you'll find there's reason to believe that PREloading with 5-HTP is not considered effective, and adds a degree of risk, by how much is unknown.

There's always a chance of Serotonin Syndrome when using MDXxx, but that chance is greatly increased when you introduce second Serotonin related stimulant. Although 5-HTP is not a "stimulant" itself, it may give MDxx access to a lot more Serotonin then it could have otherwise, adding extra stress for your brain's fight against it.

On the same hand, a lot of people also report that it has negative effects on their high, and have a better experience without the 5-HTP PREload.

I have only tried PREloading with 5-HTP before a night out on MDMA once, but found that it had taken the intensity level down a few steps. Since then I only use 5-HTP for POSTload which definitely helps "liven" me up a little for days following.
 
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I've been wanting to test this theory for a while, but it has been a little difficult as 5HTP is not for sale OTC in Aus. Anyway, I managed to get hold of some and last Thurs I took 100mg 5HTP about 15 hours (morning) before taking only 1/2 of an (known) high MDMA pill. I found the waves a lot stronger, and had some slightly higher than normal panic feelings on the up. To be fair, I wasn't in a place I could really relax but overall, I'd say it seemed to make a positive difference.

I have just taken another 100mg 5HTP about two minutes ago in preparation for a concert tomorrow night, at which I will probably drop two of the good pills (in the name of science, of course!).

I'll report my findings back in the next day or so :)
 
i read somewhere on this site a few months back about pre/post loading that...

taking 5-HTP for 1-2 weeks everyday BEFORE you're planning on dropping is a good idea, but don't take it in the last day or two before you're gonna drop. Then, obviously take it after you drop...but after your high is COMPLETELY over, not when you're starting to come down or anything.

Give that a try, see how that works out and lemme know if it works or not...I haven't tried it yet because I missed my chances to do so.. :(
 
Well, I did as I said... but I have to say the jury is still out. I had a good high, but I am not convinced that the 5HTP made all that much difference.

Reading AireePotter's pre load suggestion sounds good. I might give that a whirl.

All in all, a few more test are in order ;)
 
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