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5-APB -- No Hangover No Comedown - Experiences - please post

Jabberwocky

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Recent Empirical Observation and Experimentation has yielded a picture of 5-APB that stands in stark contrast to MDMA

Observations:

1. Redosing works - every time

2. Remarkably low doses are effective (~20 mg) -- multiple low doses allow for long sessions of effects

3. When you are back to baseline it seems like nothing was ingested

4. Afterglow = horny as fuck

5. only identified drawback -- significant diuretic/dehydrating effect

6. seems to possibly reduce/remove HPPD symptoms caused by other MDXX use (sounds crazy but seriously it seems that way)

7. Can appear completely sober/unaltered even when at a +2
 
How close to the MDMA feeling do you reckon it provides? Is it a really good substitute or is it pleasant in its own right but inferior when compared to MDMA (in your opinion).
 
how long does it last for you?...until down to basline?

what about the comeup? I loved 6 apb but hated the long comeups which often took over two hours of jitters before a smooth roll would kick in.
 
LucidSDreamr said:
how long does it last for you?...until down to basline?

what about the comeup? I loved 6 apb but hated the long comeups which often took over two hours of jitters before a smooth roll would kick in.
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depends on the dose -- from a single low dose 2-4 hours after come-up larger doses 4-6 hours, even LARGE doses are done about 6-8 hours after the come-up , after any redose figure 4 hours -- YMMV

1-1.5 hours oral come-up
45 min - 1 hour plugged (water dissolved)
initial 10-15 min partial, then 1-1.5 hours insufflated (will feel like dust in your lungs)

30-45 minutes sublingual
 
shugenja said:
AT the correct dosage : better
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Thanks for the info. One more thing then - what guidance would you give with reference to the "correct dosage". Rather than YMMV, do you think there are ball-park figures, or do you have an idea of mg/kg body weight?
 
EntheoDjinn said:
Thanks for the info. One more thing then - what guidance would you give with reference to the "correct dosage". Rather than YMMV, do you think there are ball-park figures, or do you have an idea of mg/kg body weight?
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The APBs tend to have a very large variance with respect to the dose-response curve -- on an individual basis

For some 80 mg will knock them on their ASS

For others 120 mg

Furthermore, the difference between wonderful bliss and scarily overwhelming effects can be 10 or 20 mg

Personal titration (increasing dosage by small increments to assess response - like 10 mg increase per test) is absolutely necessary with the APBs

6-APB is like 5-APB but longer lasting (much much longer), more intense and psychedelic
 
Took some chinese EU 5-APB yesterday at the beach.

We hung our hammocks at the edge of the forest & I took ~70mg, my female friend took ~60.

It was in a solution with vodka, stored at ~30°C in a disinfectant spray bottle.
It lost 5% volume in a month.

The potency didn't seem decreased.
I'm quite sensitive to empathogens.
The comeup, which started 40min after ingestion for me & 60min after for my trip partner, was pretty intense for me. Some nausea, very different focus & colors while looking around.

The trip was very peaceful. We thought & talked a lot.
My friend has been pretty depressed for some time now & she was afraid not even an empathogen is able to reach her when I started to feel the effects earlier than her.

Her worries dissolved when she started to get the usual disinhibition of feelings.

She's still asleep, I hope she feels good today.
I'm feeling quite well, a bit exhausted though.

We left the forest when monkeys started to show up above our hammocks & it got dark.

We just lied at the beach for at least 5-6h after that.

Some hash mellowed it out for me.

All in all a good decision. I think we could've taken 10-20mg more.
 
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