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5-APB: a functional and fun alternative to MDMA

Shifty38

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This is a report I originally posted in the Big Dandy Thread - forgot to cross post it here. The experience took place in early November 2011.

'Male, 62kg. Only recently rejoined this world

Have taken MDMA for the first time within the last few months and so I'm in a pretty good position to compare and contrast. My girlfriend, 51kg, is much more experienced but we took the same dose and had a very similar experience.

Dropped 70mg (+ or - 3mg) capsule. Took 2.5 hours to come up and reached a lovely peak about an hour or so after that. As noted, the come-up was a long process with occasional and mild glimpses of what was in store. When it kicked in, it was good.

Dropped an additional 40mg top-up (+ or - 3mg) at T+3.00 - could have done with topping up about 30 mins earlier. However, was extremely good after T+4.00. The slowing down process was remarkably smooth and I dropped off into a natural sleep at about T + 9.00. My girlfriend needed a little help transitioning and took, on our return, MXE (10mg), N20 (2 hits) and an Etizolam before feeling able to sleep.

Overall, it was a lovely experience, very similar to MDMA although I felt more lucid throughout. In addition, there is something slightly more 'pure' and 'intense' about the experience of MDMA. MDMA is rather special, is it not? Unsurprisingly, music and dancing was a lot of fun. Significant euphoria experienced. Enjoyable body load.

No comedown as of T+47. Only variable that I can highlight is feeling a very low-level of grumpiness (and I don't really get grumpy).

Other than that, an excellent alternative to MDMA (which I will keep for special occasions).

Best,

Shifty'
 
The absolute closest RC to MDMA is 4-FA. I know, off topic, but I'm just saying. I didn't know about this wonderful compound for years while always being an avid MDMA fan.
 
The absolute closest RC to MDMA is 4-FA. I know, off topic, but I'm just saying. I didn't know about this wonderful compound for years while always being an avid MDMA fan.

it lacks the push of mdma, 6apb is for me the closest (amt also has the feel). 4fa is lacking the psychelic edge of mdma, thats whats missing
 
Off-topic:

For me, 4-fa (or 4-fma, when dosed adjusting for potency) is half way between MDMA and d-amp; if you dose high enough, you'll have a 'rolley' peak, but it won't reach the heights of the peak of a solid dose of mdma, and there will be a great deal of (pleasant) trailing stimulation. It is for this reason that it shouldn't be used as a straightforward mdma-substitute. 6-apb sounds pretty promising (but I haven't experience with a personal bioassay). But let's treat these compounds for what they are. 5 and 6-apb sound quite lovely from trip reports.

ebola
 
In terms of a euphoric feeling, 6 is much close to Mandy than 5. However, mix 6 with some weed and MXE and boy you have a yourself a trippy little analogue.
 
The absolute closest RC to MDMA is 4-FA. I know, off topic, but I'm just saying. I didn't know about this wonderful compound for years while always being an avid MDMA fan.
I'm sorry but I totally disagree. Mabye the first two hours resemble a little of what MDMA can bring but from then on it's just plain stimulation. Very boring. If you want something that looks like MDMA without the horrible MDMA hangovers, go for 6-APB. Haven't tried 5-APB yet.
 
Off-topic: How could anyone compare 4-FA (or 4-FMA for that matter) to MDMA? Sure they have quite a bit of erotic to them but they lack the empathy, intense euphoria, and all that fuzzy lovey-doveyness that MDMA and other, more prominent empatheogens give.

Anyway, this is a report I needed to read. I've been contemplating the usefulness of 5-APB, so far I hear good things. Perhaps a mix of 5-APB/6-APB would yield even more promising results... perhaps a 50mg/65mg mix?
 
Cface - very interesting you mention the mix of 5 and 6. Whilst taking 6 on its own (and before getting all trippy) my girlfriend and I commented that combined with 5, 6 would be extremely close to MDMA and would be excellent in a club. I've still not tried the combo. Went for an interesting MDMA / MXE combo (NOT ADVISED - I'll write up a report in due course) on NYE but I'll get to 5 and 6. 50/65 would probably be a good place to start. Maybe even a little more of each, depending on tolerance.
 
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