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5-APb + 6-APB + aMT mix

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Wubb

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I'v been intrested in this mix for a while i think it could be quite fun but i am unsure of what the effects will be all mixed together.
I was thinking a 60mg/40mg mix of the apb's will be enough with 20mg of aMT to give it a nice round feeling but wonder if this will be neurotoxic or put any unwanted strain on my body.

I take 75mg of amitripilyn along with 720mg of verapamil every day for cluster headaches thought that would be worth a mention.
 
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(Combo question, but w/ compounds PD more often deals with; better chance for answers)
 
aMT is thought to be a partial MAOI, meaning it is supposed to inhibit the enzymes which break down neurotransmitters such as dopamine, etc. It will probably lead to a more intense experience, but aMT has been combined with MDMA with little ill effects. The neurotoxicity of the APB's have yet to be determined
 
Often when someone mentions aMT being a MAOI someone else comes along and mentions that this is mostly from aMT being a competitive MAO substrate and having a MAOI aspect comparable to that of amphetamine. If this is just a guesstimate someone made once upon a time and nobody ever bothered to check if they are truly comparable, I don't know.

I am not happy about chemicals like this popping up and people asking about more and more elaborate combinations. This is typical 'pushing the envelope'. Combinations are unpredictable to begin with, if they involve multiple unresearched compounds imagine how much more unpredictable it gets. Often the envelope gets pushed until someone gets hurt. Make sure you are not that person.

If you want to do this, first see how 5-APB plays together with 6-APB, and 5-APB + aMT, then 6-APB + AMT, then maybe if all is encouraging you can go to 3 drugs. And with every step you should start low, like below normal doses and work your way up. So titrating and testing your doses will probably take a lot of tries. Unfortunately that will also mean you push the envelope regarding chronic use.

Just be careful.
 
I'm not all that surprised, but it might be monoamine reuptake inhibition that is to blame (regarding aMT effect) rather than MAOI. But who knows, maybe it is MAOI after all. The simplified result should be essentially the same: a too high concentration of monoamine neurotransmitters in the synapse either because it isn't recycled well enough (reuptake by transporter) or broken down well enough (by MAO / monoamine oxidase) or both.

Thanks for contributing morpheus, that is truly helpful!

Anyway, a good example of why you should take it easy with these things - maybe a question is whether 6-APB can be more or less equated to MDA making it still a dangerous and bad plan to combine with aMT due to the nature of aMT.... OR perhaps it is because 6-APB (and 5-APB) have certain unique effects that make them dangerous in certain circumstances. We don't know, and until we do (don't wait up) you should be seriously careful and on the lookout for signs that you are going too far like hyperthermia or eyes rolling back.

Moreover: be sensible.
 
Even if aMT's MAOI action is relatively low I wouldn't want to consider taking a combination like this unless the doses of all three compounds were very low. I found 6-APB and 5-APB to potentiate each other massively, to add aMT to the mix would be pretty crazy.

I think even something like 40mg 6-APB + 30mg 5-APB + 10mg aMT could be quite a strong experience. Of course, I may be wrong, but I definitely wouldn't start with anything higher my first attempt with such a combination, as starting low will allow you to assess if there are any problems with the combo or not.

As already mentioned, try combining two of the three in all cases before trying combining all three.
 
Hey thanks for the info guys i think i'l steer clear of this mix there are just too many unknown factors to take into account. I think i'l just stick to the apb's on there own i dont wanna be the guy giving these chemicals a bad name when i laid up in hospital with The Sun (newspaper) looking for there next big story on research chemicals aha


Cheers for the help
Its not drugs what kill people, its uneducation what does
 
Wubb said:
Its not drugs what kill people, its uneducation what does
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Ironic.

Glad to hear you're going to play it safe. I found aMT to be one of the heaviest body-load chems I've tried. Combine that with the gurning stimulation from 6-APB and I'd be all over the place. Haven't tried 5-APB mind.
 
Yep, 5 and 6 is enough by itself. Add a little weed and you'll have a lovely trippy experience.
 
Shifty38 said:
Yep, 5 and 6 is enough by itself. Add a little weed and you'll have a lovely trippy experience.
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^ Definitely. When I combined 5-APB + 6-APB it was a very strong roll, but the minute I added weed to the mix it became incredibly trippy and visual indeed. All the trees became massive fractals and I even had some deliriant-esque visuals of people who weren't there etc, and objects flying across my computer monitor. (though, unlike with deliriants, I knew what was hallucination and what wasn't. Just some of them looked very real)
 
Jesusgreen said:
^ Definitely. When I combined 5-APB + 6-APB it was a very strong roll, but the minute I added weed to the mix it became incredibly trippy and visual indeed. All the trees became massive fractals and I even had some deliriant-esque visuals of people who weren't there etc, and objects flying across my computer monitor. (though, unlike with deliriants, I knew what was hallucination and what wasn't. Just some of them looked very real)
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Ha :) Sounds like you had some fun. Looking forward to my next little go with 6. As I've said a few times, I'm going to try it on the tail end of some Acid. Should be interesting. Only a low dose. Probably no more than 50mg
 
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