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RCs 4methylmethamphetamine

foolsgold

foolsgold

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just seen someone selling this nothing on wiki other than this 4-Methylmethamphetamine (4-MMA) is a putative stimulant and entactogen drug of the amphetamine class. It is the β-deketo analogue of mephedrone

is it toxic as fuck or have i got it mixed up with something else ?

not after doing it my self just wish to advise people about it in there if it is what i think cheers people
 
I read only on trip report on this compound. Apparently it was less effective than methamphetamine, which is interesting comparing it to methcathinone and the change in effect by adding a methyl group in the 4 position. I have no idea about toxicity but I would tread very carefully.

Also i would be wary of a vendor claiming to sell this. It would surely be as illegal in most jurisdictions. Where would one get a large batch synthed?
 
Methamphetamine is already longer than it should and if you add a methyl, you make it even longer. Dexamphetamine is perfect length I guess, it's hard to improve it, making the cycle an heterocycle like with nicotine, not sure if it works as good, you don't want to have too many Ns in a compound. Also, methyl activates the cycle and I think that deactivating the cycle makes the compound stronger.
 
The -OR groups in MDMA for example deactivate the cycle and it works well but the molecule is too long so, to deactivate the cycle you need to add stuff that makes it fit less well so it's limited what you can come up with, you can't re-invent the carbon atom. It all goes around the d-amp shape.
 
cheers im still not sure if this is what killed someone in my city york last year il have to dig through my post to find out thats why i wanted to know if it is il have to let people know

cnt check up[ on my posts don't go far enough back
 
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4-methylP2P makes 4-methylamphetamine. A quick google search shows 4-methoxyP2P which I imagine is used to make PMA.

Would 4-methyl P2P be one of the starting chemicasl for 4-MMA? Apparently it is uncontrolled, hence the increase of 4-methylamphetamine in European speed.
 
this is "desoxy-PMMA", given the toxicity of para-methylamphetamine, para-methoxyamphetamine, & PMMA, I would not be ingesting this...
 
Sounds too much like 4 methyl aminorex, which is very bad news. It is the true "ICE" from back in the day and was a big hit in Hawaii in the 90's. A lot of deaths though because it raised BP to much. It was way more potent than meth. I think the precursor for that one was PPA (Dexedrin).
 
cheers sekio i guess thats what it was i just could not remember i knew it was you i was talking to in the media forum when that girl died better just flush the 250 mg he is sending and post a warning

warning posted and to myself your meant to be going clean not getting samples remember that next time plaxton
 
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