Crashing
Bluelighter
Just wanted to give my opinion of this combo.
Although many people probably wouldn't even try it due to obvious possible negative reactions, I decided to do it anyway.
I had been taking 4fma for about 30 hours (maybe around 150mgs total), and decided to smoke a bump of kanna when i felt i was beginning to finally come down.
Worn out from 4fma but still going, i decided to smoke a bump of kanna in a cigarette. . .
Bad idea, folks.
I immediately had strong adrenergic feeling effects, like taking 600mg of caffeine, or too much Yohimbe. You know that feeling when the heart begins to expand into the throat and feels like an entirely new and foreign organ altogether.
After about 5 minutes i thought maybe it was just anxiety, so i just tried to do some deep breathing and relax. Although it wasn't incredibly scary, it was definitely super uncomfortable. There was a moment of pure bliss around +15minutes to +30minutes that i felt really great about, felt like mephedrone for a minute but that feeling quickly wore off and my hands were pins and needles/totally numb at that point.
My legs were so sore and getting no oxygen, i tried to flex my calf muscles and get this - there was literally no reaction. I was trying everything in my power to flex my calf, and it was as if the muscle didn't even exist. There was no response from my leg.. really strange and likely dangerous side effect.
I tried a few things to relax, but a glass of wine eventually ended up being a life saver.
The vasoconstriction was insane... never experienced anything like it on any stim or combo ever. Before the kanna, i had pretty much no vasoconstriction, but after kanna.. the veins in my arms which are normally full and protruding were now shriveled up to about 1/4th the size and looked really lumpy and weird.
I felt like i was choking on my heart, and no blood was flowing.
Like i said, the wine i think gave me a slight anxiolytic effect but more importantly a vasodilation effect which was very very helpful.
So, don't mix kanna with 4fma. Might be a good idea for me to get some clonodine just in case shit like this ever happens again. 4fma is a really great chem, by the way.
Although many people probably wouldn't even try it due to obvious possible negative reactions, I decided to do it anyway.
I had been taking 4fma for about 30 hours (maybe around 150mgs total), and decided to smoke a bump of kanna when i felt i was beginning to finally come down.
Worn out from 4fma but still going, i decided to smoke a bump of kanna in a cigarette. . .
Bad idea, folks.
I immediately had strong adrenergic feeling effects, like taking 600mg of caffeine, or too much Yohimbe. You know that feeling when the heart begins to expand into the throat and feels like an entirely new and foreign organ altogether.
After about 5 minutes i thought maybe it was just anxiety, so i just tried to do some deep breathing and relax. Although it wasn't incredibly scary, it was definitely super uncomfortable. There was a moment of pure bliss around +15minutes to +30minutes that i felt really great about, felt like mephedrone for a minute but that feeling quickly wore off and my hands were pins and needles/totally numb at that point.
My legs were so sore and getting no oxygen, i tried to flex my calf muscles and get this - there was literally no reaction. I was trying everything in my power to flex my calf, and it was as if the muscle didn't even exist. There was no response from my leg.. really strange and likely dangerous side effect.
I tried a few things to relax, but a glass of wine eventually ended up being a life saver.
The vasoconstriction was insane... never experienced anything like it on any stim or combo ever. Before the kanna, i had pretty much no vasoconstriction, but after kanna.. the veins in my arms which are normally full and protruding were now shriveled up to about 1/4th the size and looked really lumpy and weird.
I felt like i was choking on my heart, and no blood was flowing.
Like i said, the wine i think gave me a slight anxiolytic effect but more importantly a vasodilation effect which was very very helpful.
So, don't mix kanna with 4fma. Might be a good idea for me to get some clonodine just in case shit like this ever happens again. 4fma is a really great chem, by the way.
