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40mg oxycodone (Percocets)

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Michael_25

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Hi guys. I'm going to lay off the codeine for 7 days, starting today, and then take the last 8 Percocets I have (40mg oxy in total) next weekend. Now the reason I'm not going to take any codeine for seven days is because I want my tolerance to be considerably reduced.

The other night, I took 20mg of oxy after having been dosing daily on 300mg codeine for the preceding 2 weeks. I was less than impressed with that oxy experience; there was no nod and the euphoria was only slightly stronger than that of a 300mg codeine dose! Disappointing.

Anyway, my questions: Will having not taken any opiates for 7 days reduce my tolerance considerably? AND, will 40mg oxy be sufficient to nod?

People will probably be replying "Man, just take 30mg the next time... increase in gradual increments." But the problem is I have only 8 Percocets left. If I take only 30mg then I'd have 10mg left over, which will definitely NOT get me high. And I won't be getting any more oxy for at least a few months. So you can appreciate my predicament.

40mgs of oxycodone isn't a lethal dose, anyway, right? I mean worse case scenario I'll probably just puke up all night, right?

Thanks guys.
 
For some people 40mg is a lethal dose. For somebody without any tolerance to opiates, 40mg is way too much. However, given your tolerance to codeine and daily usage, along with your usage of oxycodone, 40mg will most likely not be lethal for you.

If you take a 7 day break from all opiates (including codeine) your tolerance will go down a bit. "Considerably", well, that's hard to say. Opiate tolerance tends to hang around for a while but the exact time frame varies from person to person and from situation from situation. You'll probably notice a difference though.

FWIW, I recommend doing a Cold Water Extraction (CWE) on your Percocets. Assuming you're using the 5/325 Percocets, that means you're taking 8x5/325 to get to 40mg oxycodone. That's also 8x325mg APAP (Tylenol, a.k.a acetaminophen/paracetamol). That's 2600mg APAP, which is pushing it. If you're using 5/500 Percocets then you're at 4000mg APAP, which is...well the limit for what is safe. Chronic (read: daily or almost daily) use of high doses of APAP (even below the 4000mg "ceiling" is still dangerous for your liver. If you're drinking any amount of alcohol with that much APAP in your system, you are most certainly damaging your liver.

Just a heads up in the spirit of harm reduction. There are tons and tons of threads on Bluelight and other resources on the Internet regarding CWEs. Do a search and read through them if you plan on taking these formulations (I'm assuming your codeine formulation also has APAP in it) on a regular basis.
 
NeighborhoodThreat said:
For some people 40mg is a lethal dose. For somebody without any tolerance to opiates, 40mg is way too much. However, given your tolerance to codeine and daily usage, along with your usage of oxycodone, 40mg will most likely not be lethal for you.

If you take a 7 day break from all opiates (including codeine) your tolerance will go down a bit. "Considerably", well, that's hard to say. Opiate tolerance tends to hang around for a while but the exact time frame varies from person to person and from situation from situation. You'll probably notice a difference though.

FWIW, I recommend doing a Cold Water Extraction (CWE) on your Percocets. Assuming you're using the 5/325 Percocets, that means you're taking 8x5/325 to get to 40mg oxycodone. That's also 8x325mg APAP (Tylenol, a.k.a acetaminophen/paracetamol). That's 2600mg APAP, which is pushing it. If you're using 5/500 Percocets then you're at 4000mg APAP, which is...well the limit for what is safe. Chronic (read: daily or almost daily) use of high doses of APAP (even below the 4000mg "ceiling" is still dangerous for your liver. If you're drinking any amount of alcohol with that much APAP in your system, you are most certainly damaging your liver.

Just a heads up in the spirit of harm reduction. There are tons and tons of threads on Bluelight and other resources on the Internet regarding CWEs. Do a search and read through them if you plan on taking these formulations (I'm assuming your codeine formulation also has APAP in it) on a regular basis.
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Thanks for the information, man. By the way, the Percocets I have are 5/325, so a one-off dose of roughly 2600mg APAP should be okay. Thus I won't bother with a CWE.

As I wrote, I took 20mg the other night and barely felt it. I now have only 40mg left. I was hoping that by stopping all opiate usage for 7 days my tolerance would be significantly reduced. But you say that the tolerance reduction would only be minimal. Bummer.

To err on the side of caution, 30mg might be the way to go. But as I said, I only have 40mg left all up. So the leftover 10mg would be wasted.

Considering I felt very little from 20mg, perhaps -- or most likely -- a 40mg dose would not be fatal. I don't have a real history with oxycodone; over a year ago I took one 7.5mg pill. Obviously it did nothing. The other night -- when I took 20mg -- was only my second oxy experience. The only opiate I do have history with is codeine.

I just don't want to end up in the ER or, worse, dead.

Thanks again for your detailed reply, man :-)

P.S. My codeine solutions contain APAP and hence I always perform a CWE with them. Years ago when I was younger and dumber I took 6 grams of APAP in one hit and drank Jack Daniels, not very bright, but now I've seen the light. Post liver tests revealed no irregularities or problems, thankfully!
 
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Your tolerance to codeine means you will have tolerance to oxycodone.

All opiates and opioid are cross tolerant, meaning if you have a tolerance to one opiate you will have tolerance to all opiates. Switching opiates will not drop your tolerance down to zero.
 
Not disagreeing with NeighborhoodThreat, just throwing in a supporting opinion:
I think you'd be fine on 40mg of oxycodone if you take 300mg of codeine on a fairly regular basis, even if you stop for a week. No need to try 30mg, be disappointed again, and then be sitting on that 10mg with no chance of catching a good buzz.
 
I don't recommend this for anyone, but if I were you I'd take that 7 day break, then take the entire 40mg at once with a beer and only one beer. Seven days will lower you're tolerance, but not enough to make taking 40mg a danger, especially if you're use to 300mg of Codeine.
 
400mg was the most I'd do. But that was oral. Sorry, I misread. 40mg. If 40mg kills you, it was your time. You are right in saying the worst case is a crappy night of vomiting. That said, why waste good oxycodone. Start at 30 on an empty stomach. If you aren't where you want to be in 30 minutes or so, add the 10. Empty stomach is key. As much as it such, eat nothing for 24 hours prior. 7 days without codeine is kinda funny. That don't do shit to your tolerance. At least not enough that you will nothing. Try a few months, then maybe you'll feel it.
 
NeighborhoodThreat said:
For some people 40mg is a lethal dose. For somebody without any tolerance to opiates, 40mg is way too much. However, given your tolerance to codeine and daily usage, along with your usage of oxycodone, 40mg will most likely not be lethal for you.
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This about sums it up. I don't think that your tolerance will go back down to zero, but I think that taking a break from all opiates for a few days is still a good idea before you go ahead and dose the oxycodone.
 
J.Wallace said:
I don't recommend this for anyone, but if I were you I'd take that 7 day break, then take the entire 40mg at once with a beer and only one beer. Seven days will lower you're tolerance, but not enough to make taking 40mg a danger, especially if you're use to 300mg of Codeine.
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unless he wants a bad case of gastritis, I'd say alcohol should be out of the question. Even when I've done CWE's, drinking on tylenol is not a fun combo
 
comatoserct said:
unless he wants a bad case of gastritis, I'd say alcohol should be out of the question. Even when I've done CWE's, drinking on tylenol is not a fun combo
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You know, I wasn't even thinking about the tylenol when I wrote that response, I was thinking of straight Oxycodone. My bad. Yeah, don't drink if it has Tylenol in it.
 
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