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40mg is not a huge dose especialy not if your on MMP.
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40mg of hydromorphone
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Tongue
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man, i remember the days when i could SKINPOP 60 units of NUBAIN and feel a nice buzz...also, i used to be able to snort around 20-30 mgs of OXY and be feeling pretty good...i miss those days very much...nowadays, i dont know what it would take to get me off..
to me, it would kill alot of the anticipation of getting high if i was on 140 mgs of methadone..i have shot up some smack when i was dosing 60 mgs of 'DONE a day, and the feeling was very dull as compared to past dealings with junk...especially considering the fact that u smoke WEED before, which i cant understand as i hate that shit, and it would(imo) ruin any opiate high i might get...only thing i like combining with opiates are maybe some stimulants, but tahts it...
40 mg of DILAUDID is equal to WHAT mg amount of HEROIN??someone gives me guesstimates..
to me, it would kill alot of the anticipation of getting high if i was on 140 mgs of methadone..i have shot up some smack when i was dosing 60 mgs of 'DONE a day, and the feeling was very dull as compared to past dealings with junk...especially considering the fact that u smoke WEED before, which i cant understand as i hate that shit, and it would(imo) ruin any opiate high i might get...only thing i like combining with opiates are maybe some stimulants, but tahts it...
40 mg of DILAUDID is equal to WHAT mg amount of HEROIN??someone gives me guesstimates..
negrogesic
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Well i guess we established that the price doesnt matter, if LikuidKid can get them cheaper, then that is good for him. I thought the price i paid was average. But it does suck wasting $120 (i should have saved them for when/if i get off this methadone bullshit).
I dont shoot pills in generally anymore, aside from a few instances like these dilaudid for example. I used to shoot oxycontin ALL the time, and my veins have suffered considerably. And yes even though i am on a high dose of methadone, I CAN get high if i shoot .5 grams of good heroin that i get aroud here. Yes its still expensive at around $80 a shot, but its cheaper than shooting all those pills that didnt even get me high, and the high from heroin is guarenteed with 500mg of the high quality heroin i get. And i feel shooting heroin is SLIGHTLY safer than shooting pills, because it contains less insolubles, but the danger of infection or something of that nature is higher with street dope (even though it comes triple wrapped (balloon, foil, saran wrap), in a water tight balloon. So I will stick to shooting heroin, because it gets me high everytime, lets me sleep well because it lasts long (comparatively) and is cheaper than banging the equivolent of .5g heroin in pills. And so far I have been able to use IV heroin (ontop of the 140mg MMT) a few times a week, but i can stop for 10 days and wont feel heroin withdrawal, apart from psychological. I shot heroin around 20 days out of 30 days last month, and i took an 8 day break, and aside from boredom, I was fine. But i plan to ease up on the heroin, because its costing me $80 a shot with the dose i need, so that cost me around $1600 last month (20 days of usage). This is definately excessive, especially considering my methadone clinic costs $1500/month. But despite the fact that i used heroin 67% of last month, i did not get physically addicted. But again, i still need to step it down a bit.
So i wasted $120 bucks, but i have wasted more in the past, and i just wanted to see if the dilaudid could get me high. But its clearly evidently that i should stay with heroin, as it is a certain nod, and its less expensive/dangerous than shooting pills (at least in respect to my methadone tolerance). Believe me, if i could get off on a lesser dose, i would do it, but first i need to GET OFF methadone. I appreciate the replies, and no hard feelings to "LikuidKid".
I dont shoot pills in generally anymore, aside from a few instances like these dilaudid for example. I used to shoot oxycontin ALL the time, and my veins have suffered considerably. And yes even though i am on a high dose of methadone, I CAN get high if i shoot .5 grams of good heroin that i get aroud here. Yes its still expensive at around $80 a shot, but its cheaper than shooting all those pills that didnt even get me high, and the high from heroin is guarenteed with 500mg of the high quality heroin i get. And i feel shooting heroin is SLIGHTLY safer than shooting pills, because it contains less insolubles, but the danger of infection or something of that nature is higher with street dope (even though it comes triple wrapped (balloon, foil, saran wrap), in a water tight balloon. So I will stick to shooting heroin, because it gets me high everytime, lets me sleep well because it lasts long (comparatively) and is cheaper than banging the equivolent of .5g heroin in pills. And so far I have been able to use IV heroin (ontop of the 140mg MMT) a few times a week, but i can stop for 10 days and wont feel heroin withdrawal, apart from psychological. I shot heroin around 20 days out of 30 days last month, and i took an 8 day break, and aside from boredom, I was fine. But i plan to ease up on the heroin, because its costing me $80 a shot with the dose i need, so that cost me around $1600 last month (20 days of usage). This is definately excessive, especially considering my methadone clinic costs $1500/month. But despite the fact that i used heroin 67% of last month, i did not get physically addicted. But again, i still need to step it down a bit.
So i wasted $120 bucks, but i have wasted more in the past, and i just wanted to see if the dilaudid could get me high. But its clearly evidently that i should stay with heroin, as it is a certain nod, and its less expensive/dangerous than shooting pills (at least in respect to my methadone tolerance). Believe me, if i could get off on a lesser dose, i would do it, but first i need to GET OFF methadone. I appreciate the replies, and no hard feelings to "LikuidKid".
Lesson learned. theres no shame in that. And I know we dont discuss prices here but i'd be very happy to have dilaudid at that price. This is the only pill I will shoot.
I have taken almost every pharma opiate from morphine to fentanyl but dilaudid i heard is total waste unless IV'ed and then it's damn good
With my current tolerence of being prescribe various painkillers for surgery. I would IV 10mg and sit back and relax
I have taken almost every pharma opiate from morphine to fentanyl but dilaudid i heard is total waste unless IV'ed and then it's damn good
With my current tolerence of being prescribe various painkillers for surgery. I would IV 10mg and sit back and relax
LikuidKid
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Tri-nity said:
24mg dilaudid orally works WONDERS for me. I usually rail whole 80s to get off but the Dillies worked realllll nice.
You sound like you are taking a considerable amount of medication. Heroin is more recreational, methadone is more constructive. You say you are taking diazepam also??
If you truly want to get off the 'done then you will have to consider lowering your dosage. Instead of 120mg / day, try taking a days break.
Then have only enough 'done to kill the craving, but dont go crazy. You must be enjoying it or else you wouldnt want to continue taking it.
Admittedly it does sound like a crappy addiction to have when you are shooting those obscene doses though.
You will just have to try & take less. Don't think that by taking Darvon it will be some kind of 'magic cure' to the addiction of methadone. That is just garbage canned talk 8)
You will seriosuly just have to try and lower your dosage. I know it isnt easily implemented but there is no magic wand other than fighting (and suffering) the pain of withdrawl.
Try sellin your 'done to on the street to try and rid yourself of excess stock. Having that stuff around will only lead you to take more when you want to take less??
Also, stop seeing your doctor. He is costing you more than you can afford to pay.
If you truly want to get off the 'done then you will have to consider lowering your dosage. Instead of 120mg / day, try taking a days break.
Then have only enough 'done to kill the craving, but dont go crazy. You must be enjoying it or else you wouldnt want to continue taking it.
Admittedly it does sound like a crappy addiction to have when you are shooting those obscene doses though.
You will just have to try & take less. Don't think that by taking Darvon it will be some kind of 'magic cure' to the addiction of methadone. That is just garbage canned talk 8)
You will seriosuly just have to try and lower your dosage. I know it isnt easily implemented but there is no magic wand other than fighting (and suffering) the pain of withdrawl.
Try sellin your 'done to on the street to try and rid yourself of excess stock. Having that stuff around will only lead you to take more when you want to take less??
Also, stop seeing your doctor. He is costing you more than you can afford to pay.
karloff123
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Negro your just like me...you shot over 3 thousand dollars worth of dope last month and your obsessing over a lost 120 dollar dilly shot gone wrong.....I'm like that....I can get 10 oxies, lose one and obsess about the one I lost.....its a junkies logic
collective_vision
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Dilaudid is worthless orally for me...I've only shot up to 8mg though so I can't help you :/
negrogesic
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Interesting message ronald, but i can afford the doctors (but it does become expensive, but cheaper than full time recreational drugs), My heroin use has become more and more sporadic (1-2x week). Im addicted to now at least 150mg of diazepam powder which i take everynight to sleep or i have seziures. Im more concerned about getting off the diazepam, which feel is more physically addictive than the methadone, not that methadone isnt EXTREMELY addictive. I rarely take double doses of methadone for recreation, and i have alot of excess 10mg pills, but i rarely increase my dose, not enough to mess with my average blood level. I would like to get off the methadone, but its hard detoxing from both simultaneously, but i should stop bitching and just do it and get it over with......
I find the heroin helps, and i am not addicted to it and am able to moderate, to a degree their use......
I find the heroin helps, and i am not addicted to it and am able to moderate, to a degree their use......
Winterborn
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Jesus fuck.. how do some of you support you habits? It seems to me that you would ahve to spend more time triyng to obtain this shit/getting floored, then getting the cash for it.
Taking the 'done one its own is not such a bad thing if you have built up a tolerance to it. It is only since youe came across as WANTING to quit that formed the basis of the said advice. It is totally in your hands how decide to moderate your addiciton.
I have much experience with the 8's. and I have also had experience while taking them while on done. I would take about 60 mg of done the day before and the next morning get up and shoot 3 8's and barely get off.
I have a huge tolerance for opiates and in order for me to get where i like to be I cook down 6 8's and take a few xanax bars and I get lit. I don't suggest really mixing done and dilaudid because I really couldn't get off from the dilaudid while the Done was in my system. But anyways with the dose of methadone you are on I would say to take some of your valium or perhaps another benzo that you don't have a tolerance to, and bang at least 5 but i would say unfortunately to get the results you want you would probably wanna bang like 7 at once. It may seem like allot but with all the Done your on thats about what it's gonna take to breakthrough and really do something enjoyable for you, and the benzo's help allot. Anyways you probably figured this out for yourself............
I have a huge tolerance for opiates and in order for me to get where i like to be I cook down 6 8's and take a few xanax bars and I get lit. I don't suggest really mixing done and dilaudid because I really couldn't get off from the dilaudid while the Done was in my system. But anyways with the dose of methadone you are on I would say to take some of your valium or perhaps another benzo that you don't have a tolerance to, and bang at least 5 but i would say unfortunately to get the results you want you would probably wanna bang like 7 at once. It may seem like allot but with all the Done your on thats about what it's gonna take to breakthrough and really do something enjoyable for you, and the benzo's help allot. Anyways you probably figured this out for yourself............
naturalone
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i used to think that negro's clinic was expensive...until i quantified what i spend on my rec doses and scripts. i think that last month i spent $2500 getting high.
luckily i'm in a position where i can support 2 full households AND spend $2500 AND still go to Palm Springs and Hawaii and shit, and stay at 5 star hotels, go to spas and eat at kick ass restaurants.
however, i can see how people get ino trouble; cash advances on credit cards, stealing and doing just about anything to get a fix, even though they can't afford it.
imo prohibition breeds crime. if this shit (opiates have been used for at least 8000 years) was available and regulated, just like pot, it could be taxed to the point that we could do away with the income tax and still be able to spend like a drunken sailor (ie: bush).
i have the same arguement for opies that i do for pot: how many times does someone take an OC and beat their wife/girlfriend, or get into a fight in general?
my take on shit, and YES THIS IS OT, is that the gov't loves crisis, because it forms the basis for excuses for spending and keeps folks scared. legalize the one drug that creates tons of problems (drunk driving, asault, domestic abuse, etc.), but make drugs that make life peaceful illegal (ie: opioids, pot, benzos (although the physical dependence makes that a double edge sword)...but, i think you get my point. muscle relaxers, etc).
sigh.
i'm really unhappy about the current situation in the states. a litigious society, where nobody seems to take responsibility for their own actions (read: stupidity). where the mainstream worships cookie cutter bullshit shows and bands, fox news is popular (even though the talking heads on that station are rupert's puppets...he's elbow deep up their ass, controlling their thoughts and actions, etc).
okay, i'm gonna get off of the soap box.
let negro do what he wants to do, and on his own time. who gives a fuck how much he spends on anything. if he's got the money to do it, and you don't, then that's your problem...not his.
can you tell i'm grumpy?
okay, i'm done. done for a while in fact.
peace everybody. all you junkies (me included) get the fuck out and fucking vote. we're going for the less of two evils here, granted. but, let's fucking do it, okay?
feel free to delete this. i hope you don't. but, i won't hold it against you if you do.
i'm going to start digging up dirt on bill o'reily, and start a site about his gay drug-using ass.
sorry to take this OT. nothing to see here. move along.
luckily i'm in a position where i can support 2 full households AND spend $2500 AND still go to Palm Springs and Hawaii and shit, and stay at 5 star hotels, go to spas and eat at kick ass restaurants.
however, i can see how people get ino trouble; cash advances on credit cards, stealing and doing just about anything to get a fix, even though they can't afford it.
imo prohibition breeds crime. if this shit (opiates have been used for at least 8000 years) was available and regulated, just like pot, it could be taxed to the point that we could do away with the income tax and still be able to spend like a drunken sailor (ie: bush).
i have the same arguement for opies that i do for pot: how many times does someone take an OC and beat their wife/girlfriend, or get into a fight in general?
my take on shit, and YES THIS IS OT, is that the gov't loves crisis, because it forms the basis for excuses for spending and keeps folks scared. legalize the one drug that creates tons of problems (drunk driving, asault, domestic abuse, etc.), but make drugs that make life peaceful illegal (ie: opioids, pot, benzos (although the physical dependence makes that a double edge sword)...but, i think you get my point. muscle relaxers, etc).
sigh.
i'm really unhappy about the current situation in the states. a litigious society, where nobody seems to take responsibility for their own actions (read: stupidity). where the mainstream worships cookie cutter bullshit shows and bands, fox news is popular (even though the talking heads on that station are rupert's puppets...he's elbow deep up their ass, controlling their thoughts and actions, etc).
okay, i'm gonna get off of the soap box.
let negro do what he wants to do, and on his own time. who gives a fuck how much he spends on anything. if he's got the money to do it, and you don't, then that's your problem...not his.
can you tell i'm grumpy?
okay, i'm done. done for a while in fact.
peace everybody. all you junkies (me included) get the fuck out and fucking vote. we're going for the less of two evils here, granted. but, let's fucking do it, okay?
feel free to delete this. i hope you don't. but, i won't hold it against you if you do.
i'm going to start digging up dirt on bill o'reily, and start a site about his gay drug-using ass.
sorry to take this OT. nothing to see here. move along.