Hey all, been a very long time sense i have been active on here and was surprised to see this thread near the top as this is the reason i have logged back in to hopefully put an end too many questions and answers regarding 4MAR and Meth. Ill start by saying The following information is as accurate as can possibly be. I am 100% sure that the two substances im comparing (both hallucinations as one would never such posses these in a physical form because that would be illegal!) are subject:
1. D-Methamphetamine with a purity above 97%. The sample in this discussion had been synthesized by a chemist in a laboratory environment, and all possible impurity's (only from the synth obviously) have been removed to the best purity possible. A number of washes followed by a very slow hot and cold method of dual solvent crystallization.
2.As Above however subject two is 4-methylaminorex (synthesized via PPA, best of four options)
I will continuously update this as time is short and i want to cover this topic thoroughly so for once there is a detailed report of the differences between both using the purist possible samples and knowing first hand that they are in fact the substances (as opposed to "i was told it was 4mar" or "i got some 4mar last night from a friend" sort of replies which never can 100% be known it was in fact that.
I need to log off for a few hours soon and the things i want to make known for readers are all of the different characteristics, effects, weights, visual id's ect and please i welcome any questions. I hope this can benefit the blue light community for faster and accurate identification when they suspect it may be one or the other. I will go into detail on each of the following topics tomorrow when i have time but for those interested in a quick answer
i will dot point results below, then tomorrow write a detailed report on each characteristic.
Transparency/Colour:
Meth= Very see threw, like glass. When the crystal is bigger its glass like effects gets less but once you smash it into smaller pieces you can literally see straight threw the tiny flat pieces. No matter what size the piece, when move under light "sparkles". This is a noted physical difference.
4-MAR= Whilst still very see threw, is a noticeably less especially when doing the light test. Two major differences. 4Mar has a much much whitish appearence as opposed to meths dry waterlike/clear look. The second is 4MAR does
NOT sparkle like diamonds when moved under light. Best way to describe it is as if your moving hologram.
Smell:
Meth= none noticeable
4MAR= slight sweet smell like icing on a cake. noticeable from an open gram bag and clearly smelled from a sealed ounce bag.
Crystal Shape/Surface:
Both grow longer in legnth than width, crystals no rock formations at all.
Meth: Very jagged edges
4MAR: very very snooth sides barely and bumps at all. u can just glide a finger down a side and iit feels like paper.
Both can be broken just how u want without crumbling however Meth when smashed hard goes into much more smaller peices where as 4MAR kinda just brakes without many crumbs.
Weight:
Meth is much heavier
A gram of 4mar looks like 0.6g of meth however 4mar burns boths longer, stronger (meaning if ur the sort that like to blow big clouds from using too much heat 4mar disappears and goes darker slowly.
Shardup/crackback:
Meth- slightly faster crackle and melting time...much faster solidifying time (when heats taken away to shard up)
4MAR- takes a little longer to start crackling and does morose, a lot more vapor is already full in the bowl before half the piece has liquidized, so on your second toke your often taking proper breaths whilsts twirling and a bit of 4mar still going from solid and melting is riding around like a boat. Takes significantly longer to recrystallize and it does this weirdly from the top of the bowl (or highest point you rolled too and slowly down to the bottom. once again maintains very clean white crack back unless absolutely fried. Tastes beautiful! sweet taste.
Much more euphoria is noticed in 4mar and you don't fiend for another twirl anywhere near as much as meth. No 'tweaked out' or edginess from 4MAR even after 48 hours up just a bit of a dry mouth. Very smooth comedown.
Even the first round for the session i enjoy the rush of 4mar more so than meth. Both are great but when purity is even 4mar wins hands down, In every box other than availability. Ill upload photos in the morning its 3 am now.
https://goo.gl/photos/21podvdY5ZypJjhX6
