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4-Methoxi-methcathinon

hugo24

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Maybe I'll get a chance to try it,not sure if I will-does anyone have experience with it?Posted a few (metabolism) abstracts in ADD about its pyrrolidino analogs MOPPP,it seems the substanceclass was prevalent on the market somewhere to warrant these studies.One french journal of 1953(!) has it as sympathomimetic, adrenaline-like and hypertensive,with a fleeting vasodilatoric effect.I'm aware of the possible dangers BUT,methcathinon and PMMA both are well liked/tolerated here,as is Methylone,on the other hand I hate PMA (had it once).

The french called it Methoxiephedron,Another publication has it as Methedron.I like the sound of this names...
 
While I do like the sound of the names 'methedrone' and 'methoxyephedrone,' I would never take my chances with this one. MCAT by itself causes a precipitous rise in BP, heart rate and temp. Combining this effect with PMA effects could easily cause a deadly case of arrhythmia or malignant hyperthermia. Plus, the fact that both are likely MAOIs is not a good thing.

I have heard that PMEA is relatively innocuous, but I would never fuck with this one.
 
I'm up for PMEA. I've had some around for years, just not enough data for me to try it yet. But what little is available seems interesting.
 
Riemann,I hear your concerns,though I find MCAT a wonderful stimulant (second only to meth) with empathogenic properties.With only a small rise in BP/PR.
The MAOI properties are speculation on your side,basing it on PMA's findings?

MGS,yeah just recently started to read the PMEA thread,caught my curiosity by coincidence,I have completely missed it.Since PMMA was my first drug it brought back many good memories (so I'm a bit biased),that stuff is so euphoric it brought me to tears several times...when I find time I'll write an account.PMMA is def. not PMA.

Back to the thread,activity is to be expected at around 100-200mg.The cathinons seem to have a similar to slightly higher dose compared to the amps.The most active IMHO is MDPV with 5mg.

A mg or so applied by smelling carefully on the base led to no effect.So 5mg was taken orally,some placebo effects,nothing else.It confirms that no unusual activity is here.
 
No, they're discussing 4-MeO-methcathinone, and you're right this doesn't need to be here in the "pshedelic drugs" forum.

---> Advanced Drug Discussion
 
20mg was taken,30mins later 50mg.Another 10min later I encountered the first activity!It is a decongestant and I had to sneeze several times,this for the physicals.The onset was accompanied by a pleasant butterfly-in-the-stomach sensation,some stimulation,especially along the throat and lung axis.

At the 1 hour mark a first weak wave of euphoria went over me,but there was also this stillness I know and love so of MDMA.The meter shows 128/83 BP and 78 PR,I intended to monitor it closely (the baseline values were 121/71 75). 1h 15min,a good euphoria manifests itself,wow,it feels a bit like MDMA,and I can actually enjoy it (I have some issues with the latter).

A short motor unrest/twitching in the belly is noted,but no worry-just shortly after I grew a weak,definitive cone of silence,who would have thought this is possible!At the 1.5h point I took the CV values again,135/84 72,barely changed at all but there was this typical prickling sensation of the cathinons which I like very much.Optically,some enhancement is noted but the dose is too low I guess.A quick check proved the erotic fine and do-able,orgasm was very long...

The drug started to wear off 2 hours after the first dose was ingested,the values I was a bit concerned already back to normal 125/79 74.Here,I observed a strong anorectic effect,I usually eat at this time,but I had zero hunger nor was I thirsty.

Half an hour later again,I was basically out and took 150mg Tramadol which was a bit weaker than usual so no lasting MAOI property,at least not at this dose.The next day was fine,maybe a small blues the following 2 days,but nothing like the MDMA hangover.Maybe the drug itself has some anti-depressant activity,Methylone was tested in that regard.

This was still a weak experience but I suspect a good deal of euphoria ala E is just around the corner.100mg is scheduled for the next level and I expect this to be a full dose. I'm looking forward to it as I was not turned down by anything by this Methedrone.Maybe the cathinon moiety has even lessened the cardiovascular.
 
Trying this one myself right now.

100mg insufflated in little bumps produced a plesant feeling, butterflies a bit like when you are getting ready for a big journey, how you feel he day before or even the morning before you leave... nice stim with empathogenic qualities and a superb body high. Felt that i could do with a higher dose, so I..

...added 100mg, orally, allin one go. Quick takes me further - the intellectual work I was doing earlier (grading papers) was interrupted due to unwillingness rather than inability and gave way to documentary watching. Intellectually I could definitely still do the grading (language/concentration skills not noticeably reduced) though I'd have to keep my mood in check to make sure I'm not overly generous.

Kinda inbetween MDMA and the first half of 4FA... and a wee bit like Catha edulis... though that isn't surprising. I am enjoying this quite a lot.

I doubt it has any significant MAO quality because I had over half a bottle of red wine with it and I ate feta cheese earlier today and I have also been using St John's Wort for several weeks now - and no ill effects except the occasional eye wiggle.

Would be nice to have more of this stuff, maybe.
 
Gave this another road test last night, 48 hours after my first trial... same dosage, same way of ingesting... 100mg insufflated, and then 100mg orally a couple hours later. this time the setting was not "home alone" but "out at a gig"... and I had quite a few beers... a great time was had, I was euphoric as all hell, dancing was fun as I'd been on speed, and there was definitely some empathy going on... like a speedy E without too much push... was pretty talkative... a friend reported to me today that it was quite hard to understand me speak... seems it affected the speech centre somewhat, and my spech was very slurred - more so than it should have been with the amount of alcohol I'd had. Another thing is that it seems to kill all pain... apparently the music was very loud, 2 friends confirmed this... I never noticed.... didn't have any earache, not today either, and no tinnitus either. Maybe it has a beneficial effect on eardrums, somehow :) what I did have this time was a bit of a hangover and lethargy, though just alcohol alone can sometimes give me hangovers farworse than what I have been going through today. Must add that I'd also had catha edulis tea, along with the first 100mg... for good measure ... dunno if it was the synergy or just the good setting, but I had a tremendous time really.

All in all a very enjoyable substance - blew away all neediness for a few hours, euphorialand... no major crash either it seems. And once it wears off, sleep comes easy - unlike with many other stims, for me.
 
^sounds more promising than I thought with what little info I had seen on it led me to believe.
 
...seems the compound also leaves prone subjects somewhat depressed a few days later... in any case I have been feeling totally crap now for a couple of days. After the first dose I wasn't sure if I was about to crash 2 days later... it seemed like I might but then i doses again and had a fabulous time... the next day I was so tired that I slept for over 10 hours... and I have been somewhat miserable ever since. Yesterday was so-so but today has been REALLY bad. So bad that I don't even wanna take any drugs whatsoever; I need to get through this straight, I need quality restorative sleep. This may or may not be to do with the drug, as I am somewhat bipolar anyway and go up'n'down like a yoyo quite unpredictably anyway.
 
Assuming this is the same compound as 4-methyl-methcathinone, sold as mephedrone... I would like to warn people that a certain vendor of this product has now decided to stop offering it as they claim it has recently caused a death.

Freaky.

And a friend of mine also felt crap 2 days later. Seems it may well be quite serotonin-depleting - more so than ethyl-cathinone.
 
Seems it may well be quite serotonin-depleting - more so than ethyl-cathinone.
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The active metabolite of diethylpropion serotonin depleting? It's the first I was aware of this - diethylpropion never caused any sort of post use depression when I used to get Tenuate Dospan (sustained release diethylpropion)
 
@Hugo24: What I ate was labelled 4-methoxi-mc, not 4-methyl-mc... as a non-chemist I assumed they might be the same thing.

@F&B: allI know I ended up feeling as crap as after MDMA ... or speed, come to think of it. Just miserable/depressed for a couple of days. hence I assumed it is serotonin-depleting. It also felt a bit serotoney to me when it kicked in... quite empathogenic... maybe dopamine also... I realyl don't know, but something paramount to mental well-being was most definitely very depleted later.
 
I am also getting confused with nomenclature... 4-methyl-mc seems to go by the name of mephedrone.... and 4-methoxi-mc by the name of methedrone
 
The name Methedron for 4-Methoxi-methcathinon came from an old journal,its a bit a fault of the vendor of 4-Methyl-methcathinon to call it Mephedrone,he should have researched it better before introducing!
 
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