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4-Meo-PCP vs. Methoxetamine
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TimeKeeper
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anybody with experience with both?
islander20
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Tried both, I have more experience with 4-meo-pcp though. I much prefer methoxetamine, just all around better in my opinion. 4-meo-pcp always seemed to drag on for ever, once the peak faded I was stuck in a boring state for the next couple hours atleast.
Mr.Toad
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^^you said it.
Methoxetamine over 4-MeO-PCP.
Even though methoxetamine sometimes can drag on , it's nothing compared to 4-MeO-PCP. You can easily feel the effects from 4-MeO-PCP all in to the next day and it does not have any of the warmth that metoxetamine posses.
Your motorskill is also more intact compared to 4-MeO-PCP. I was a walking wreck (if I even could walk) on that stuff.
Methoxetamine over 4-MeO-PCP.
Even though methoxetamine sometimes can drag on , it's nothing compared to 4-MeO-PCP. You can easily feel the effects from 4-MeO-PCP all in to the next day and it does not have any of the warmth that metoxetamine posses.
Your motorskill is also more intact compared to 4-MeO-PCP. I was a walking wreck (if I even could walk) on that stuff.
✰hyperobjects✰
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Yay. I'm glad someone started this thread.
I like methoxetamine for parties and it seems to be conducive to some deep space exploration. I haven't explored methoxydine [4-meo-pcp] at the higher dose range yet, but it seems promising at higher levels for those interested in re-conceptualizing-desigining cortical/body maps. and I love how creative and compelled to write I feel on 4-meo-pcp at low doses. I feel very concise and articulate, which isn't quite the case with MXE, but with MXE i still have the fine motor skills in tact to be able to verbally communicate my ideas with friends, something I wouldn't be able to whilst on Ketamine.
Downside to MXE: I generally have a headache/hangover the next day.
Downside to 4-meo-PCP: even exploring it at 100mg you feel it well into the next day, negative ideation similar to ketamine the day after.
Upside to MXE: Cheaper to get than K, the scary/violent-bits of K are removed
Upside to Methoxydine: I think this would be very conducive to a having a crazy art making weekend at lower doses, and higher dose trip reports data show some profound discociative ego shattering effects.
I like methoxetamine for parties and it seems to be conducive to some deep space exploration. I haven't explored methoxydine [4-meo-pcp] at the higher dose range yet, but it seems promising at higher levels for those interested in re-conceptualizing-desigining cortical/body maps. and I love how creative and compelled to write I feel on 4-meo-pcp at low doses. I feel very concise and articulate, which isn't quite the case with MXE, but with MXE i still have the fine motor skills in tact to be able to verbally communicate my ideas with friends, something I wouldn't be able to whilst on Ketamine.
Downside to MXE: I generally have a headache/hangover the next day.
Downside to 4-meo-PCP: even exploring it at 100mg you feel it well into the next day, negative ideation similar to ketamine the day after.
Upside to MXE: Cheaper to get than K, the scary/violent-bits of K are removed
Upside to Methoxydine: I think this would be very conducive to a having a crazy art making weekend at lower doses, and higher dose trip reports data show some profound discociative ego shattering effects.
Mr.Toad
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The best route of administration for both is definitely plugged.
doctor puzzled
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interesting
interesting thread, makes me post for the first time in over one year.
@OP i feel you should make your own opinion because i have the entire different feeling of both compounds than the first few posters.
ketamine is my favourite drug of all times and i enjoy it very much even in low doses of 30-50mg nasally, so maybe i am a bit of an exception, dont know...
all i write now is about the IV/IM-route of administration:
when i first tried 4-meo-pcp, i immediately fell in love with it, as it is even more gentle and longer lasting than k, so for me it has all the good sides of k more pronounced and the (almost non-existant) downsides reduced. my motor and language skills are still "usable", as is my vision... (btw, i am talking about 50-150mg IM)
then came methoxetamine and boy, was i excited...
and boy, did it let me down!!!
everything the first posters wrote about the downsides of 4-meo-pcp, I have with methoxetamine: the only real pleaseant experience was the first one, and only because i wanted to IV 40mg and was only able to get half in before the needle slipped... this was a nice and surprisingly strong but nice experience...
everytime i took it after this first night, i had unpleaseant experiences, no matter if IM or IV, no matter the dose (either it was so low that i got no effects and when i did i was not able to enjoy it).
so all in all: i am not able to do anything on M, no motor skills, impaired vision, walking almost impossible and a feeling that this compound was beating me black and blue with a baseball bat.
my girlfriend made the same experiences, she loved 50mg 4-meo plugged (she is extremely sensitive, so don't think that this is a light dose for her) and M she hated... she was also letting me "play with fire" (using up the M) and describing me some things i couldnt realize (the impaired vision, speech and motor skills were apparent to me too of course)
also she said that i often seemed so desperate to go out of this state that i was jumping up from the bed and doing yoga.
also, as methoxetamine (as opposed to K and Moxycyclidine) is not sedating i sometimes was jumping out from the bed, being not able to stand and thus endangering myself quite a lot!
please don't answer anybody telling me i overdosed, i was titrating extremly careful...
so this shows just once again that any drug works different for everybody, but i've never seen such a big discrepance like with these two...
what makes also a huge difference: with dxm, k and 4-meo i can explore the "hyperspace" which for me is BLACK!!! the realm of Methoxetamine for me always was WHITE!!!
also, i can't feel any effects of 4-meo the next day, maybe because of the ROA, maybe because of my heavy dxm use in young years
so you'll have to get both and decide for yourself, but my vote goes for 4-Meo-PCP while Methoxetamine IMHO is an ugly, misbuild, violent and agressive entity. also it produces a cross tolerance to 4-Meo which still remains after more than six weeks
interesting thread, makes me post for the first time in over one year.
@OP i feel you should make your own opinion because i have the entire different feeling of both compounds than the first few posters.
ketamine is my favourite drug of all times and i enjoy it very much even in low doses of 30-50mg nasally, so maybe i am a bit of an exception, dont know...
all i write now is about the IV/IM-route of administration:
when i first tried 4-meo-pcp, i immediately fell in love with it, as it is even more gentle and longer lasting than k, so for me it has all the good sides of k more pronounced and the (almost non-existant) downsides reduced. my motor and language skills are still "usable", as is my vision... (btw, i am talking about 50-150mg IM)
then came methoxetamine and boy, was i excited...
and boy, did it let me down!!!
everything the first posters wrote about the downsides of 4-meo-pcp, I have with methoxetamine: the only real pleaseant experience was the first one, and only because i wanted to IV 40mg and was only able to get half in before the needle slipped... this was a nice and surprisingly strong but nice experience...
everytime i took it after this first night, i had unpleaseant experiences, no matter if IM or IV, no matter the dose (either it was so low that i got no effects and when i did i was not able to enjoy it).
so all in all: i am not able to do anything on M, no motor skills, impaired vision, walking almost impossible and a feeling that this compound was beating me black and blue with a baseball bat.
my girlfriend made the same experiences, she loved 50mg 4-meo plugged (she is extremely sensitive, so don't think that this is a light dose for her) and M she hated... she was also letting me "play with fire" (using up the M) and describing me some things i couldnt realize (the impaired vision, speech and motor skills were apparent to me too of course)
also she said that i often seemed so desperate to go out of this state that i was jumping up from the bed and doing yoga.
also, as methoxetamine (as opposed to K and Moxycyclidine) is not sedating i sometimes was jumping out from the bed, being not able to stand and thus endangering myself quite a lot!
please don't answer anybody telling me i overdosed, i was titrating extremly careful...
so this shows just once again that any drug works different for everybody, but i've never seen such a big discrepance like with these two...
what makes also a huge difference: with dxm, k and 4-meo i can explore the "hyperspace" which for me is BLACK!!! the realm of Methoxetamine for me always was WHITE!!!
also, i can't feel any effects of 4-meo the next day, maybe because of the ROA, maybe because of my heavy dxm use in young years
so you'll have to get both and decide for yourself, but my vote goes for 4-Meo-PCP while Methoxetamine IMHO is an ugly, misbuild, violent and agressive entity. also it produces a cross tolerance to 4-Meo which still remains after more than six weeks
Monkeyzoid
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Ever get round to trying that combo? I've been thinking if you took both (orally) at the same time there could be a nice overlap as 4-meo-pcp takes a while to get going and mxe has a pretty rapid onset.